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Bill Schlatterer
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 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: Moving Pictures |
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For those wondering how to move an airplane from the house to the airport,…. Here is a visual. Note that the picture with the black trailer is how someone looks who just realizes that a car hauler is NOT wide enough. If it has fenders,…. It isn't wide enough ;-(
An hour later, we had moved up to a 30,000 lb dozer trailer (CDL required) which turned out to be perfect! The ramp angle kept the tail high, 8ft + wide bed was just right. With just the gear and the engine mounts tied down, it moved around some which was good but didn't move forward or back. It takes a pretty good assortment of heavy tie downs but it really wasn't as much of a problem as I thought it would be. 45 mph on the freeway was easy, the problem was with the side roads which were pretty rough with a heavy trailer and no load. A 20 mile trip in about 40 minutes. Took 5 minutes to set the ramps and back it off.
Good Bogy-Bar is a requirement!
<<...>> <<...>> <<...>> <<...>>
If's funny, I was a nervous Nellie but my buddy's who did the majority of the loading were just fearless. As Allen said, " who cares, it's not my airplane". (arms raised  Apparently that takes all the stress off 
Bill S
7a getting closer to the runway
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bmeyette
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
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Location: Cornish, NH
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: Moving Pictures |
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i used a wide snowmobile trailer - worked super
http://www.meyette.us/engineJul08.htm#jul25
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Schlatterer
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:04 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Moving Pictures
For those wondering how to move an airplane from the house to the airport,…. Here is a visual. Note that the picture with the black trailer is how someone looks who just realizes that a car hauler is NOT wide enough. If it has fenders,…. It isn't wide enough ;-(
An hour later, we had moved up to a 30,000 lb dozer trailer (CDL required) which turned out to be perfect! The ramp angle kept the tail high, 8ft + wide bed was just right. With just the gear and the engine mounts tied down, it moved around some which was good but didn't move forward or back. It takes a pretty good assortment of heavy tie downs but it really wasn't as much of a problem as I thought it would be. 45 mph on the freeway was easy, the problem was with the side roads which were pretty rough with a heavy trailer and no load. A 20 mile trip in about 40 minutes. Took 5 minutes to set the ramps and back it off.
Good Bogy-Bar is a requirement!
<<...>> <<...>> <<...>> <<...>>
If's funny, I was a nervous Nellie but my buddy's who did the majority of the loading were just fearless. As Allen said, " who cares, it's not my airplane". (arms raised Apparently that takes all the stress off
Bill S
7a getting closer to the runway
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Brian Meyette, Cornish, NH
RV-7A QB tipup, supercharged Subaru STi engine, MT CS prop, all glass day/night/IFR panel, being built with solar and wind power
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allenmurray(at)mindspring
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: Moving Pictures |
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HI Brian.
I‘ve been following your travails with the engine, and I see you’ve kept it. What did you change that Eggenfellner supplied so you could keep the powerplant? I am curious what you were able to do.
Good luck with your project.
Allen Murray
Cherry Hill NJ
(I fly a store-bought PA-30)
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:15 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Moving Pictures
i used a wide snowmobile trailer - worked super
http://www.meyette.us/engineJul08.htm#jul25
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Schlatterer
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:04 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Moving Pictures
For those wondering how to move an airplane from the house to the airport,…. Here is a visual. Note that the picture with the black trailer is how someone looks who just realizes that a car hauler is NOT wide enough. If it has fenders,…. It isn't wide enough ;-(
An hour later, we had moved up to a 30,000 lb dozer trailer (CDL required) which turned out to be perfect! The ramp angle kept the tail high, 8ft + wide bed was just right. With just the gear and the engine mounts tied down, it moved around some which was good but didn't move forward or back. It takes a pretty good assortment of heavy tie downs but it really wasn't as much of a problem as I thought it would be. 45 mph on the freeway was easy, the problem was with the side roads which were pretty rough with a heavy trailer and no load. A 20 mile trip in about 40 minutes. Took 5 minutes to set the ramps and back it off.
Good Bogy-Bar is a requirement!
<<...>> <<...>> <<...>> <<...>>
If's funny, I was a nervous Nellie but my buddy's who did the majority of the loading were just fearless. As Allen said, " who cares, it's not my airplane". (arms raised Apparently that takes all the stress off
Bill S
7a getting closer to the runway
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bmeyette
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
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Location: Cornish, NH
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:01 am Post subject: Moving Pictures |
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Thanks, Allen.
yeah, i'm still plugging away on the engine & determined to make it work.
I changed much of what Eggenfellner supplied, including ECU, wiring harness, radiators, throttle
I'm hoping the new PSRU will hold together; reports seem fairly promising so far.
Many parts, like the intercooler, have had to be modified.
I stayed with the supercharger, altho I had to change out the pulley & bracket so it isn't being so badly overspeeded. One other STi owner in AUS has stuck with the SC, others have gone to a turbocharger. From what people tell me, I'm not expecting great life from the SC, cuz i'm told it's the wrong type for this application. If it fails, I'll probably to the turbo route.
I'm sticking with the alternator, altho others have swapped that out for a more powerful one.
I had it all running & fully secured once, but then I had to tear out the ECU and the entire wiring harness when the only one flying crashed due to the factory ECU deciding it was time for "limp home mode". Now, it's running again with much larger rads and the SDS ECU. I'm very happy with the ECU, as well as the great support on it from Ross Farnham.
I added a thermostat to the oil cooler lines.
Several other STi owners had problems with the poorly-machined intake manifold causing intake leaks, but mine seemed OK when i pulled it off.
I also didn't go with the original Eggenfellner ideas on fuel pump mounting, wiring (EXP BUS), battery management, fuel pump management; all of which the factory eventually abandoned & went with how I did it.
For the time I have in the FWF alone, I coudl have built at least one RV, and for the money I have in it, I could have bought a nice used flying plane.
I hear the engine kicks butt once it's going and if not overheating, so I'm looking forward to someday experiencing that.
brian
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of allen murray
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:34 AM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Moving Pictures
HI Brian.
I‘ve been following your travails with the engine, and I see you’ve kept it. What did you change that Eggenfellner supplied so you could keep the powerplant? I am curious what you were able to do.
Good luck with your project.
Allen Murray
Cherry Hill NJ
(I fly a store-bought PA-30)
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:15 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Moving Pictures
i used a wide snowmobile trailer - worked super
http://www.meyette.us/engineJul08.htm#jul25
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Schlatterer
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:04 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Moving Pictures
For those wondering how to move an airplane from the house to the airport,…. Here is a visual. Note that the picture with the black trailer is how someone looks who just realizes that a car hauler is NOT wide enough. If it has fenders,…. It isn't wide enough ;-(
An hour later, we had moved up to a 30,000 lb dozer trailer (CDL required) which turned out to be perfect! The ramp angle kept the tail high, 8ft + wide bed was just right. With just the gear and the engine mounts tied down, it moved around some which was good but didn't move forward or back. It takes a pretty good assortment of heavy tie downs but it really wasn't as much of a problem as I thought it would be. 45 mph on the freeway was easy, the problem was with the side roads which were pretty rough with a heavy trailer and no load. A 20 mile trip in about 40 minutes. Took 5 minutes to set the ramps and back it off.
Good Bogy-Bar is a requirement!
<<...>> <<...>> <<...>> <<...>>
If's funny, I was a nervous Nellie but my buddy's who did the majority of the loading were just fearless. As Allen said, " who cares, it's not my airplane". (arms raised Apparently that takes all the stress off
Bill S
7a getting closer to the runway
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Brian Meyette, Cornish, NH
RV-7A QB tipup, supercharged Subaru STi engine, MT CS prop, all glass day/night/IFR panel, being built with solar and wind power
N432MM
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allenmurray(at)mindspring
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Thank you, Brian. Good luck! What a disaster you are working to overcome. I went to SNF this Spring and Eggenfellner was there, exhibiting FWF kits.
Allen
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:55 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Moving Pictures
Thanks, Allen.
yeah, i'm still plugging away on the engine & determined to make it work.
I changed much of what Eggenfellner supplied, including ECU, wiring harness, radiators, throttle
I'm hoping the new PSRU will hold together; reports seem fairly promising so far.
Many parts, like the intercooler, have had to be modified.
I stayed with the supercharger, altho I had to change out the pulley & bracket so it isn't being so badly overspeeded. One other STi owner in AUS has stuck with the SC, others have gone to a turbocharger. From what people tell me, I'm not expecting great life from the SC, cuz i'm told it's the wrong type for this application. If it fails, I'll probably to the turbo route.
I'm sticking with the alternator, altho others have swapped that out for a more powerful one.
I had it all running & fully secured once, but then I had to tear out the ECU and the entire wiring harness when the only one flying crashed due to the factory ECU deciding it was time for "limp home mode". Now, it's running again with much larger rads and the SDS ECU. I'm very happy with the ECU, as well as the great support on it from Ross Farnham.
I added a thermostat to the oil cooler lines.
Several other STi owners had problems with the poorly-machined intake manifold causing intake leaks, but mine seemed OK when i pulled it off.
I also didn't go with the original Eggenfellner ideas on fuel pump mounting, wiring (EXP BUS), battery management, fuel pump management; all of which the factory eventually abandoned & went with how I did it.
For the time I have in the FWF alone, I coudl have built at least one RV, and for the money I have in it, I could have bought a nice used flying plane.
I hear the engine kicks butt once it's going and if not overheating, so I'm looking forward to someday experiencing that.
brian
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of allen murray
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:34 AM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Moving Pictures
HI Brian.
I‘ve been following your travails with the engine, and I see you’ve kept it. What did you change that Eggenfellner supplied so you could keep the powerplant? I am curious what you were able to do.
Good luck with your project.
Allen Murray
Cherry Hill NJ
(I fly a store-bought PA-30)
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:15 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Moving Pictures
i used a wide snowmobile trailer - worked super
http://www.meyette.us/engineJul08.htm#jul25
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Schlatterer
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:04 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Moving Pictures
For those wondering how to move an airplane from the house to the airport,…. Here is a visual. Note that the picture with the black trailer is how someone looks who just realizes that a car hauler is NOT wide enough. If it has fenders,…. It isn't wide enough ;-(
An hour later, we had moved up to a 30,000 lb dozer trailer (CDL required) which turned out to be perfect! The ramp angle kept the tail high, 8ft + wide bed was just right. With just the gear and the engine mounts tied down, it moved around some which was good but didn't move forward or back. It takes a pretty good assortment of heavy tie downs but it really wasn't as much of a problem as I thought it would be. 45 mph on the freeway was easy, the problem was with the side roads which were pretty rough with a heavy trailer and no load. A 20 mile trip in about 40 minutes. Took 5 minutes to set the ramps and back it off.
Good Bogy-Bar is a requirement!
<<...>> <<...>> <<...>> <<...>>
If's funny, I was a nervous Nellie but my buddy's who did the majority of the loading were just fearless. As Allen said, " who cares, it's not my airplane". (arms raised Apparently that takes all the stress off
Bill S
7a getting closer to the runway
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