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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Fuel injected M-14's 420hp Reply with quote

Hey Blitz--

Oooops! Did I say Dick DeMars (yes, I did). Nope. Shame on me. Shut my
mouth. Shoulda said Monty Barrett. Http://www.bpaengines.com With a 102
inch wide blade MTV-9 expect to pull about 1850 lbs of thrust. That'll put
any HS-6 waaaaaay in the shade. Oh, and don't forget the auto plug mod etc
while you're at it. Seems I heard they've also got an electronic ignition
system, too. Not sure. Hmmmm. Anyway, Balls Out!!! Hair on Fire!! Etc.
Etc.

Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
425-876-0865
wild.blue(at)verizon.net
www.FlyWBA.com


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:53 pm    Post subject: Fuel injected M-14's 420hp Reply with quote

Thanks again!

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Jerry Painter <wild.blue(at)verizon.net (wild.blue(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
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Hey Blitz--

Oooops!  Did I say Dick DeMars (yes, I did).  Nope.  Shame on me.  Shut my
mouth.  Shoulda said Monty Barrett.  Http://www.bpaengines.com  With a 102
inch wide blade MTV-9 expect to pull about 1850 lbs of thrust.  That'll put
any HS-6 waaaaaay in the shade.  Oh, and don't forget the auto plug mod etc
while you're at it.  Seems I heard they've also got an electronic ignition
system, too.  Not sure.  Hmmmm.  Anyway, Balls Out!!!  Hair on Fire!! Etc.
Etc.

Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
425-876-0865
wild.blue(at)verizon.net (wild.blue(at)verizon.net)
www.FlyWBA.com

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Fuel injected M-14's 420hp Reply with quote

We are currently installing our 3rd Barrett M14 in a new model 12
build we are completing. The first 2 are performing GREAT in the
Ti-12 and BEAST. One other one, actually the first BPE M14P to be
delivered is the one Calloway posted about in his CJ6 (total of 3 BPE
engines flying now). We are seeing higher cruise speeds at less fuel
burn with the Barrett mods, airflow injection, etc. Oil temps are WAY
down, CHT way down, oil consumption is very low as Terry pointed out
at fractions of a quart per hour. Auto plug conversion is from Dennis
and work great. Electronic ignition is in development at BPE but not
yet on the market. BPE is not only overhauling M14 engines but are
working on creating replacements for many parts needed including
gaskets, lock tabs, etc. BPE is here to support the M14 series into
the future.

We did the static thrust tests on the BPE engines with the same
equipment as we have used on 540 lycomings, stock M14P and M14PF
engines. The BPE engine makes the same static thrust as the M14PF but
at a lower MP. Some numbers for you:

All with 102" Mt -29 props

M14P 34"mp, 2900 rpm 1560 lb thrust
M14PF 40" mp, 2980 rpm 1850 lb thrust
M14P BPE 38" mp, 2950 rpm 1845 lb thrust
11:1 Lycon IO540 2850 rpm 1245lb thrust

BTW, the BEAST with it's BPE M14P has been making a lot of XC flights
with an Extra 300L. They burn the same gas at the same cruise
speeds. Yep lycoming and M14 burning the same amount of fuel.

Another note is that the oil doesn't instantly turn black from blow by
in the BPE M14P. It stays cleaner like a lycoming.

Sincerely,

Kevin Kimball, Vice President
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849
5354 Cemetery Road
Zellwood, FL 32798-0829
407.889.3451 phone
407.889.7168 fax
www.pittsmodel12.com
www.jimkimballenterprises.com
Email: Kevin(at)jimkimballenterprises.com
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<wild.blue(at)verizon.net>

Hey Blitz--

Oooops! Did I say Dick DeMars (yes, I did). Nope. Shame on me.
Shut my
mouth. Shoulda said Monty Barrett. Http://www.bpaengines.com With
a 102
inch wide blade MTV-9 expect to pull about 1850 lbs of thrust.
That'll put
any HS-6 waaaaaay in the shade. Oh, and don't forget the auto plug
mod etc
while you're at it. Seems I heard they've also got an electronic
ignition
system, too. Not sure. Hmmmm. Anyway, Balls Out!!! Hair on
Fire!! Etc.
Etc.

Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
425-876-0865
wild.blue(at)verizon.net
www.FlyWBA.com




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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:34 am    Post subject: Fuel injected M-14's 420hp Reply with quote

It's not clear how you achieve an added 4"mp with the BPE engine. Some flow
improvement is expected with injection.

Gill

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Fuel injected M-14's 420hp Reply with quote

Gill

BPE m14 improvements include but are not limited to:

Air flow fuel injection
Balancing
Special gear treatments
New high grade BPE designed pistons
Increased compression ratio
Head and valve work
Cylinder work
Improved piston ring design
dennis' auto plug kit
And so on.

In a few days, a BPE customer will begin flying his BPE M14 just as
above except with a carb. We can then know what contribution is from
the fuel injection system.

Sent from my iPhone
Kevin

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It's not clear how you achieve an added 4"mp with the BPE engine.
Some flow
improvement is expected with injection.

Gill

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