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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

I got my new camera yesterday, so this morning I got up at 0530, and reheated a cup of coffee then went out and rolled Dart out of the hanger. Did a preflight, and did my best to still a "premonition". I finally decided that I was being a bit foolish. The morning was absolutely beautiful and there was no wind. I determined to go and be as careful as I could.
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The camera is not designed for early morning light, so the white balance is off and a lot of the video shows up a bit red. My flight line was between Big Grassy Mtn. and Jackie's Butte, and it is about 39 miles to Three Forks. As I got close to Big Grassy I could see that the ranchers had all the water pipes working and there were water tanks spotted here and there along the range. I was about 500 feet or more above the ground as the terrain rises to about 5000 feet just before Three Forks. I looked out about a half mile and I could see dust, lots of it. As I got closer, I could see a really large herd of wild horses. This bunch stays out in that area all year long, and the last time that I saw it, was much bigger. I estimated about 50 to 75 horses in the herd.

I flew down into the canyon at the hot springs and followed the river all the way to Rome. I did come up out of the canyon after the pucker factor built up to unendurable and climbed high enough to at least get to the rim if an engine out were to occur. The Canyon is deep enough that my GPS could not see enough satellites to register. The video's are cut up into 6 segments, and none of the flight was edited out. There is about 30 some miles of canyon between Three Forks and Rome.

After coming out of the canyon, I lined out for home. When I got within 3/4 of a mile of the end of the runway, my engine began to slow down. I had forgotten to turn off the HACman system and the engine was leaning out and dying. I was about 200 feet above the ground and just past Crooked Creek. I tried to turn it rich enough for the engine to catch, but was unable to do so. As the engine died, I turned 180 degrees and established my glide to 50 MPH. There is a open spot that is smoother than the runway that I use at the house. Since this is a maneuver that I have had to do before and practiced for just this situation, landing was no big deal. Once on the ground and adjustments were made, the engine fired right up again. I turned and took off once more and continued on to the house and made my landing with no problem. Once on the ground, I gave appropriate thanks that I was safe and I didn't have to rebuild the plane again. I assure you, of all the places for me to screw up and get forced to land, I could not have picked a better spot.

However, I was not out of the woods yet. Karen had gone outside to watch me land, and heard the engine stammer and saw me turn and go down out of sight. When I restarted the engine, she had called me on the radio and asked if I was all right, to which I replied affirmative! When I got in the house it was a bit chilly. After a bit she told me "Don't do that again". I most fervently replied that I would do my best to never repeat that episode again.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

Usually, when a four stroke screws up it is because we do something to screw it up.

Glad you made a good forced landing.

I don't understand:

"I had forgotten to turn off the HACman system and the engine was leaning out and dying."

Does that mean you forgot to turn it back to rull rich?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

nice story Larry.  Pix are good enhancements.BB
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I got my new camera yesterday, so this morning I got up at 0530, and reheated a cup of coffee then went out and rolled Dart out of the hanger. Did a preflight, and did my best to still a "premonition". I finally decided that I was being a bit foolish. The morning was absolutely beautiful and there was no wind. I determined to go and be as careful as I could.
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The camera is not designed for early morning light, so the white balance is off and a lot of the video shows up a bit red. My flight line was between Big Grassy Mtn. and Jackie's Butte, and it is about 39 miles to Three Forks. As I got close to Big Grassy I could see that the ranchers had all the water pipes working and there were water tanks spotted here and there along the range. I was about 500 feet or more above the ground as the terrain rises to about 5000 feet just before Three Forks. I looked out about a half mile and I could see dust, lots of it. As I got closer, I could see a really large herd of wild horses. This bunch stays out in that area all year long, and the last time that I saw it, was much bigger. I estimated about 50 to 75 horses in the herd.
 
I flew down into the canyon at the hot springs and followed the river all the way to Rome. I did come up out of the canyon after the pucker factor built up to unendurable and climbed high enough to at least get to the rim if an engine out were to occur.  The Canyon is deep enough that my GPS could not see enough satellites to register. The video's are cut up into 6 segments, and none of the flight was edited out. There is about 30 some miles of canyon between Three Forks and Rome.
 
After coming out of the canyon, I lined out for home. When I got within 3/4 of a mile of the end of the runway, my engine began to slow down. I had forgotten to turn off the HACman system and the engine was leaning out and dying. I was about 200 feet above the ground and just past Crooked Creek. I tried to turn it rich enough for the engine to catch, but was unable to do so. As the engine died, I turned 180 degrees and established my glide to 50 MPH. There is a open spot that is smoother than the runway that I use at the house. Since this is a maneuver that I have had to do before and practiced for just this situation, landing was no big deal. Once on the ground and adjustments were made, the engine fired right up again. I turned and took off once more and continued on to the house and made my landing with no problem. Once on the ground, I gave appropriate thanks that I was safe and I didn't have to rebuild the plane again. I assure you, of all the places for me to screw up and get forced to land, I could not have picked a better spot.
 
However, I was not out of the woods yet. Karen had gone outside to watch me land, and heard the engine stammer and saw me turn and go down out of sight. When I restarted the engine, she had called me on the radio and asked if I was all right, to which I replied affirmative! When I got in the house it was a bit chilly. After a bit she told me "Don't do that again". I most fervently replied that I would do my best to never repeat that episode again.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

My last video is now uploading and almost done. Some of them are without sound as the music that I put with them was under copy write. I will try to later change the music, but for now what you see is what you see. If you go to YouTube and search for larry6080m you will be able to see them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

Slightly non-Kolb, but, check this out, Larry:

http://www.masternewmedia.org/audio_music_publishing/music-for-video/where-to-find-free-music-for-video-and-podcasts-20070722.htm

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[quote] My last video is now uploading and almost done. Some of them are without sound as the music that I put with them was under copy write. I will try to later change the music, but for now what you see is what you see. If you go to YouTube and search for larry6080m you will be able to see them.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

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"I had forgotten to turn off the HACman system and the engine was leaning out and dying."

Larry


Larry, What is the "HACman system". Is it the carb heat?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

HAC = High Altitude Compensator

It leans or enrichens the fuel mix.

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Larry, What is the "HACman system". Is it the carb heat?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

Wow, great pics.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:42 am    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

Ralph B , Hi ,Did you find the "Farm" at Oshkosh to be as disapointing as I did? Did you see TNK any where ? John Hauck told me that they havent been on the ultralight field for a couple years but I didnt find them anywhere !Just checking to see if my wife and I are blind. Chris

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Larry, What is the "HACman system". Is it the carb heat?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

Great story Larry. Its probably a good thing you forgot to reset the mixture, it turned out perfect and given this experience, you probably wont be doing it again ! A lesson learned with no bad outcome, not a bad way to go.

As far as the music in your videos, YouTube and Warner Music Group had a nasty dispute over copyright and could not come to an agreement, so YouTube is forced to block music that falls under Warner Music Group. Other music companies see the value of having their music played on YouTube and allow it, so that is why some music is blocked while other music is not. Here is a list of Artists that are owned by Warner Music Group, find music that is not on this list and you will find that it works. Nice videos, glad you got them produced and your flight ended safely.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

Chris

TNK had a display near the vendor buildings way up by the main entrance.

The guys on the ultralight field were a bit more friendly this year. I was told that a fuel truck filled up some planes and no one was yelled at. Also no one was pushing people to pay camping fees. Its going to take some time to undo the bad reputation they earned..... in past years.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Trip to 3 Forks Reply with quote

Rick ,Thanks for the reply , I guess I just missed TNK There was so much to see and learn but I was looking for TNK just to say hello and get updated on what they were up to .It was in whole a great show and we enjoyed it a lot but the ultralight field was EMPTY No venders no aircraft all we saw was a few heleos an about 4 ultralight type venders
. When we finally found the LSA displays it became apparent that they wernt flying and that was what was most of the action at the Sun&Fun. ultralight field this spring as there are very few Qualifying part 103 aircraft accept for the "Firefly" and a couple of flying lawnchair type ultralights. Perhaps  it just a sign of the times. Thanks Chris

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TNK had a display near the vendor buildings way up by the main entrance.

The guys on the ultralight field were a bit more friendly this year. I was told that a fuel truck filled up some planes and no one was yelled at. Also no one was pushing people to pay camping fees. Its going to take some time to undo the bad reputation they earned..... in past years.

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