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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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 Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject: Shuttling the Shuttle |
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Today's post on my blog. TruthByRushDelivery
Shuttling the Shuttle. From a NASA 747 pilot.
Forwarded by Tyler Hall.
Thanks, Tyler.
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: Shuttling the Shuttle |
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Good Morning All,
I have read this one before. I do not believe it is a true statement of fact. I cannot believe that any responsible party would plan a flight with as little margin as is stated by the author. Either he enjoys pulling people's legs or he is lying through his teeth!
The 747 shuttle carrier is a draggy machine, but it still obeys the laws of physics. Anything that was as critical as he has stated would be considered a careless and/or reckless operation.
Even in the fog of war, aviators do not cut things that close and I am certain the space program would have much better safety margins than were used during that big war.
Sounds exciting, but it smells bad to me!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
In a message dated 8/10/2009 3:35:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nico(at)cybersuperstore.com writes:
| Quote: | Shuttling the Shuttle. From a NASA 747 pilot.
Forwarded by Tyler Hall.
Thanks, Tyler.
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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: Shuttling the Shuttle |
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Ol’ Bob-
Boy am I glad to see this didn’t pass your sniff test either… Puts me in good company.
It struck me as if this fellow was a “guest pilot” on the shuttle carrier- which would be impossibly foolish from a risk mitigation standpoint. His wonderment at the small margins and the heft of things just doesn’t “ring true” to my ears.
The empty weight of Shuttle Endeavor is 151,207lbs… so I’m figuring that the shuttle carrier winds up with a zero fuel weight of around 500,000lbs. I know they make fuel stops to conserve on weight- but if you figure they loaded enough fuel in the airplane just to run it Tank-To-Engine you’d only be pushing about 600,000lbs- well below the certificated max takeoff weight.
Granted- you have quite a bit of extra drag to overcome- but the orbiter is not deadweight because it has a lifting wing- so you’d just have phenomenal fuel burn but not much of a weight problem…
Perhaps we’re both all wet- but my sniff on this smelled like something was rotten…
Makes for an entertaining read, however!
Robert Randazzo
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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Shuttling the Shuttle
Good Morning All,
I have read this one before. I do not believe it is a true statement of fact. I cannot believe that any responsible party would plan a flight with as little margin as is stated by the author. Either he enjoys pulling people's legs or he is lying through his teeth!
The 747 shuttle carrier is a draggy machine, but it still obeys the laws of physics. Anything that was as critical as he has stated would be considered a careless and/or reckless operation.
Even in the fog of war, aviators do not cut things that close and I am certain the space program would have much better safety margins than were used during that big war.
Sounds exciting, but it smells bad to me!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
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Shuttling the Shuttle. From a NASA 747 pilot.
Forwarded by Tyler Hall.
Thanks, Tyler. |
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