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jeff(at)westcottpress.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

I'm considering leaving off the right side exterior door lock and door  

handle.  Any opinions?



Jeff Carpenter

40304

Futzing with the left side lock

gengrumpy(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

You will regret not having it there once you get flying.....



grumpy

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On Aug 11, 2009, at 7:37 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:



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 I'm considering leaving off the right side exterior door lock and  

 door handle.  Any opinions?



 Jeff Carpenter

 40304

 Futzing with the left side lock

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

I know of at least one other -10 that left off the exterior handle, but I am not sure why the builder made that decision. Easy access to both sides of the airplane is one of the improvements over Bonanza/Mooney/Piper airplanes in my opinion. Having said that, getting to do it the way you want it is also one of the great things about building your own!



David Maib

40559

Flying



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I'm considering leaving off the right side exterior door lock and door handle.  Any opinions?

Jeff Carpenter

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

Jeff, I'm not sure how far along in your build you are. But heres' some 

things to consider:



1. The RV10 is NOT an easy airplane to get into and out of the front 

seats with 2 doors. With only one door and having to deal with the 

center console it would only aggravate the situation.

2. Think of resale, you may decide that for you and the people that will 

fly with you that it's not a big issue. If you keep your plane forever 

that will work great, but I believe most folks would look at the lack of 

a passenger entry/exit as a negative.

3. After you mount the doors (or the last time), you will necessarily 

need to enter/exit the aircraft through the passenger side opening at 

least 500 times. this could add more time to your build than you'd 

potentially save by not installing them. Not having an external handle 

on the outside WILL add time to the mounting and adjustment of the 

doors, unless you leave the window out til the end.



Deems Davis # 406

'Its all done....Its just not put together'

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Jeff Carpenter wrote:

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 I'm considering leaving off the right side exterior door lock and door 

 handle.  Any opinions?



 Jeff Carpenter

 40304

 Futzing with the left side lock

robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

I agree, you will regret it once in service.



Robin

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

Nooooooo!



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On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Jeff Carpenter<jeff(at)westcottpress.com> wrote:

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 I'm considering leaving off the right side exterior door lock and door

 handle.  Any opinions?



 Jeff Carpenter

 40304

 Futzing with the left side lock




	


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Rob Kermanj

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

Jeff Carpenter wrote:

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 I'm considering leaving off the right side exterior door lock and door 

 handle.  Any opinions?

That'll work fine unless you need to help someone get in the pass side 
	


... get in, reach over and unlatch door, get out and walk around to 

help pass .....



But you'll go a little faster.  <GR>

Linn

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 Jeff Carpenter

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 Futzing with the left side lock

AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

In the event of a fire, one might reconsider that decision.



I would bet that the building of an amateur approved kit (VANS RV-10)

has some trigger mechanism at DAR interpreted alterations that could go

beyond the initial design and structure intent.  I am not one to talk

when it comes to mods to the RV-10, but it sure starts the thoughts

flowing.  Oh the thrill of Experiments.



I might bet that you won't go a whit faster than the guys with the flush

mounted handles but you might throw your main tire weight on the left

main tire an ounce or two heavier than the right main.



John



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nukeflyboy

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Location: Granbury, TX

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

In the last 3 months we have had 2 planes flip over on landing.  One pilot extraction was a bit tricky.  The lesson here is think about off-normal or accident scenarios.  There may be times when you want someone to access the pass side real fast.

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RV-10 built and flying

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

John Cox wrote:

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 In the event of a fire, one might reconsider that decision.

I doubt there will be a rush to get inside!
	


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 I would bet that the building of an amateur approved kit (VANS RV-10)

 has some trigger mechanism at DAR interpreted alterations that could go

 beyond the initial design and structure intent.  I am not one to talk

 when it comes to mods to the RV-10, but it sure starts the thoughts

 flowing.  Oh the thrill of Experiments.

 

 I might bet that you won't go a whit faster

Aw, c'mon .... at least a whit!
	


  than the guys with the flush

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		   mounted handles but you might throw your main tire weight on the left

 main tire an ounce or two heavier than the right main.

Oh, the missing handle will cause asymmetric drag ..... more left trim 
	


.. and more drag ..... and there goes the whit!  Sheesh.

Now let me get my tongue outta my cheek!

Linn ..... do not archive

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 Johnso

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

Dave, what the heck is going on there that would produce 2 seperate incidents like flipping planes over.  Maybe I DON'T want to come visit the Plantation!

 Don McDonald



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From: nukeflyboy <flymoore(at)charter.net>

Subject: Re: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:45 PM



 --> RV10-List message posted by: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore(at)charter.net (flymoore(at)charter.net)>



In the last 3 months we have had 2 planes flip over on landing.  One pilot extraction was a bit tricky.  The lesson here is think about off-normal or accident scenarios.  There may be times when you want someone to access the pass side real fast.



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RV-6 flying

RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell





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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Right Side Exterior Door Lock and Handle

All the Cessnas that I'm use to flying have an external lock only on the left door. You have to reach inside the cabin to unlock the right door.



I'm planning on following that model. e.g., right door will have an external handle but will lock internally (I'll get a pin into the interior door handle which will prevent the latch pin from being pushed in). Said pin to be removed while in flight (emergency access issue).



Yes, this means in the left side, then walk around to the right, to help passengers if needed. But I always get in first anyway, do pre-flight, etc., while passengers watch from the shade (or stay in shelter from rain and cold)!



Not yet flying so this is all theory!

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