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sportypilot(at)stx.rr.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: aeroquip |
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I have a quick question, I have steel aeroquip hose fittings on my engine
oil in and out fittings and
wanted to know if the aluminum hose fittings will work ok with the steel
fittings.. and also steel on the
oil cooler 7 row vans type.. or will this cause problems ? they are both the
same brand and degree..
just one is half is steel and the hose fitting is aluminum.. any ideas ?
Danny..
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jackanet(at)hotmail.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: aeroquip |
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Danny,
No known problem mixing al and steel oil fittings as long as your respect
torque limits... my humble opinion. You may be thinking of dissimilar metal
problems mating copper and aluminum in electrical circuits.
Jack, N-8VZ
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Subject: aeroquip
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 17:18:35 -0600
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: aeroquip |
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AFAIK, the only problem occurs with crossthreading ..... easy to do with
steel fittings and aluminum nuts. The prime reason for using steel
under the cowl is it's higher melting point in case of a fire in the
cowl. I'm not a purist here either .... I've used whatever I had on
hand to get the job done.
Linn
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Sportypilot wrote:
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I have a quick question, I have steel aeroquip hose fittings on my engine
oil in and out fittings and
wanted to know if the aluminum hose fittings will work ok with the steel
fittings.. and also steel on the
oil cooler 7 row vans type.. or will this cause problems ? they are both the
same brand and degree..
just one is half is steel and the hose fitting is aluminum.. any ideas ?
Danny..
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chaztuna(at)adelphia.net Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: aeroquip |
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Linn,
Steel fittings are used under the cowl more for their resistance to
fatigue. Remember, we have that wet dog named Lycoming sitting up
there, impersonating a paint mixing machine! A cracked aluminum
fitting could get really expensive if an oil or fuel fitting fails in flight.
Charlie Kuss
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AFAIK, the only problem occurs with crossthreading ..... easy to do with
steel fittings and aluminum nuts. The prime reason for using steel
under the cowl is it's higher melting point in case of a fire in the
cowl. I'm not a purist here either .... I've used whatever I had on
hand to get the job done.
Linn
do not archive
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Larry Bowen
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 802 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: aeroquip |
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Mine has worked ok so far. Same setup.
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Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: aeroquip |
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Valid point, I guess. I've never seen a cracked aluminum fitting (in my
limited experience) due to vibration . I've balanced a few REALLY
out-of-balance props and have seen stress cracks in aluminum and some
steel. The only AN fittings that were cracked came from a gorilla with
a wrench! In one case, there were impressions left in the flat of the
aluminum nut from the wrench.
Linn
Charlie Kuss wrote:
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Linn,
Steel fittings are used under the cowl more for their resistance to
fatigue. Remember, we have that wet dog named Lycoming sitting up
there, impersonating a paint mixing machine! A cracked aluminum
fitting could get really expensive if an oil or fuel fitting fails in flight.
Charlie Kuss
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>AFAIK, the only problem occurs with crossthreading ..... easy to do with
>steel fittings and aluminum nuts. The prime reason for using steel
>under the cowl is it's higher melting point in case of a fire in the
>cowl. I'm not a purist here either .... I've used whatever I had on
>hand to get the job done.
>Linn
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chaztuna(at)adelphia.net Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: aeroquip |
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Linn,
Yes, improper installation goes a long way towards ruining aluminum
hydraulic fittings. Actually, most certified aircraft use the steel
fitting on anything that actually goes on the engine or moves with
the engine. Items on the firewall don't shake to much.
Charlie
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Valid point, I guess. I've never seen a cracked aluminum fitting (in my
limited experience) due to vibration . I've balanced a few REALLY
out-of-balance props and have seen stress cracks in aluminum and some
steel. The only AN fittings that were cracked came from a gorilla with
a wrench! In one case, there were impressions left in the flat of the
aluminum nut from the wrench.
Linn
Charlie Kuss wrote:
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>Linn,
> Steel fittings are used under the cowl more for their resistance to
>fatigue. Remember, we have that wet dog named Lycoming sitting up
>there, impersonating a paint mixing machine! A cracked aluminum
>fitting could get really expensive if an oil or fuel fitting fails
in flight.
>Charlie Kuss
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>>AFAIK, the only problem occurs with crossthreading ..... easy to do with
>>steel fittings and aluminum nuts. The prime reason for using steel
>>under the cowl is it's higher melting point in case of a fire in the
>>cowl. I'm not a purist here either .... I've used whatever I had on
>>hand to get the job done.
>>Linn
>>do not archive
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: aeroquip |
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In a message dated 4/1/2006 3:26:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
sportypilot(at)stx.rr.com writes:
I have a quick question, I have steel aeroquip hose fittings on my engine
oil in and out fittings and
wanted to know if the aluminum hose fittings will work ok with the steel
fittings.. and also steel on the
oil cooler 7 row vans type.. or will this cause problems ? they are both the
same brand and degree..
just one is half is steel and the hose fitting is aluminum.. any ideas ?
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I used stainless nipple fittings on the engine and aluminum fittings on the
AQP hoses. A light coating of Fuelube on just the sealing facets and threads
probably couldn't hurt (unless you reduce the friction so much that the
fitting vibrates loose) and it may eliminate the galling that can occur even when
using aluminum pipe threads into aluminum.
Once again, the theory is generally to avoid dissimilar metals combinations
that are farthest apart on the galvanic table and keep them dry. It is
possible that, with new fittings, the anodizing may have some galvanic blocking
effect, effectively breaking up the galvanic couple between any dissimilar
parent metals.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 777hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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