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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: Big Iron Envy

RV-List,  

                In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor’s Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID’s a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said… “me want.”  

                Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic “South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O’clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE  traffic 2:00 O’clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737.” Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller “that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it’s really easy to pick up” COOL! Getting “at a boy’s” from commercial pilots.   

I consider the Wig-Wag HID’s to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding.    

                The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install.   http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED’s I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying.  

Not exactly the LED’s I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392  

   

Robin  

RV-4      Sold  

RV-6A   Sold  

RV-10    75 Hours  

RV-8A   Flying 2010  

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bmeyette

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Location: Cornish, NH

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:40 am Post subject: Big Iron Envy

i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be  flashed



   From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin  Marks

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:43 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com; rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Big  Iron Envy

 

  

RV-List, 

                 In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright &  noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach  during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I  saw my neighbor’s Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID’s a  blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said… “me want.” 

                 Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic “South  West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O’clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE   traffic 2:00 O’clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing  737.” Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments  later the SW pilot told me through the controller “that is some light system he  has on his RV-10, it’s really easy to pick up” COOL! Getting “at a boy’s” from  commercial pilots.  

I consider the Wig-Wag HID’s to be  an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding.   

                 The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID  lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the  install.   http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm  . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty  expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have  found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired  sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs.  the printed circuit board LED’s I used on my -10. Plus some significant time  savings to install as well. I will report results once flying. 

Not exactly the LED’s I purchased but this gives you an idea  of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392 

  

Robin 

RV-4      Sold 

RV-6A   Sold 

RV-10    75 Hours 

RV-8A   Flying 2010

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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:26 am Post subject: Big Iron Envy

Many WigWag kits available. Most important that the controllers have a warm up feature so the bulb is not cycled till it is warm.  

   

Regarding Wig Wag:  

   

http://www.duckworksav.com/WigWag.html                           

REMEMBER: Not all wig-wags will work with HID lights!  Be sure     you use one specifically designed for use with HID units.                

               

           

[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01CA261E.39031C60[/img]         Duckworks   True Solid State Flasher   

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Simple 4 wire connection     
Easy Mounting with removable Flange     
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Note   - This unit does NOT   have an automatic HID 'warm-up' feature like the XeVision unit. Pilot must   remember to warm-up the HID lights before switching to Flash.   

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http://www.tcwtech.com/ILC-4ch.htm  

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http://www.xevision.com/hid_pulsing.html  

   

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Very important that the Wig/Wag has Warm Up Feature so HID does not pulse till fully warmed up (30 seconds or so).  

   

Good luck,  

Robin  

   

       

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette

 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:39 AM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Big Iron Envy  

  

  

   

i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed  

       

  

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks

 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:43 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com; rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Big Iron Envy  

RV-List,  

                In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor’s Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID’s a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said… “me want.”  

                Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic “South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O’clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE  traffic 2:00 O’clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737.” Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller “that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it’s really easy to pick up” COOL! Getting “at a boy’s” from commercial pilots.   

I consider the Wig-Wag HID’s to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding.    

                The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install.   http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED’s I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying.  

Not exactly the LED’s I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392  

   

Robin  

RV-4      Sold  

RV-6A   Sold  

RV-10    75 Hours  

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rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: Big Iron Envy

They can be flashed if they’re allowed to warmup up first (30-60 seconds of steady on).  Even then the life is shortened but it’s still measured in the 1000s of hours I believe.  

   

RF  

       

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette

 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:39 AM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Big Iron Envy  

  

  

   

i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed  

   

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:52 am Post subject: Big Iron Envy

Here's a site that has done something very simila regarding the nav lights light the ones you've shown. Here's his link. http://www.reiffpreheat.com/RV4.htm Scroll to the bottom to see his installed pics.

 

 Carlos in Arizona

 

 Robin Marks wrote: [quote]                 <![endif]-->       <![endif]-->      

RV-List,   

                In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor’s Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID’s a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said… “me want.”   

                Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic “South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O’clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE  traffic 2:00 O’clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737.” Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller “that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it’s really easy to pick up” COOL! Getting “at a boy’s” from commercial pilots.    

I consider the Wig-Wag HID’s to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding.     

                The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install.   http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED’s I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying.   

Not exactly the LED’s I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392   

    

Robin   

RV-4      Sold   

RV-6A   Sold   

RV-10    75 Hours   

RV-8A   Flying 2010   

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