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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: Big Iron Envy Reply with quote

RV-List,
  In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor’s Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID’s a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said… “me want.”
  Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic “South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O’clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE traffic 2:00 O’clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737.” Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller “that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it’s really easy to pick up” COOL! Getting “at a boy’s” from commercial pilots.
I consider the Wig-Wag HID’s to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding.
  The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install. http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED’s I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying.
Not exactly the LED’s I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392

Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 75 Hours
RV-8A Flying 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:40 am    Post subject: Big Iron Envy Reply with quote

i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:43 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com; rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Big Iron Envy


RV-List,
  In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor’s Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID’s a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said… “me want.”
  Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic “South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O’clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE traffic 2:00 O’clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737.” Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller “that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it’s really easy to pick up” COOL! Getting “at a boy’s” from commercial pilots.
I consider the Wig-Wag HID’s to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding.
  The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install. http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED’s I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying.
Not exactly the LED’s I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392

Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 75 Hours
RV-8A Flying 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:26 am    Post subject: Big Iron Envy Reply with quote

Many WigWag kits available. Most important that the controllers have a warm up feature so the bulb is not cycled till it is warm.

Regarding Wig Wag:

http://www.duckworksav.com/WigWag.html
REMEMBER: Not all wig-wags will work with HID lights! Be sure you use one specifically designed for use with HID units.


[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01CA261E.39031C60[/img] Duckworks True Solid State Flasher
This Flasher is great for new installations, or as a fantastic replacement for a setup where you want to upgrade to support HID, or your Flasher has failed or is inadequate and you want to use the switches you already have in the panel.
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  • Mixing of HID and Halogen Lamps OK
  • Simple 4 wire connection
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Note - This unit does NOT have an automatic HID 'warm-up' feature like the XeVision unit. Pilot must remember to warm-up the HID lights before switching to Flash.
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Very important that the Wig/Wag has Warm Up Feature so HID does not pulse till fully warmed up (30 seconds or so).

Good luck,
Robin


From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:39 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Big Iron Envy



i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed


From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:43 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com; rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Big Iron Envy
RV-List,
  In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor’s Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID’s a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said… “me want.”
  Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic “South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O’clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE traffic 2:00 O’clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737.” Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller “that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it’s really easy to pick up” COOL! Getting “at a boy’s” from commercial pilots.
I consider the Wig-Wag HID’s to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding.
  The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install. http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED’s I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying.
Not exactly the LED’s I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392

Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 75 Hours
RV-8A Flying 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Big Iron Envy Reply with quote

They can be flashed if they’re allowed to warmup up first (30-60 seconds of steady on). Even then the life is shortened but it’s still measured in the 1000s of hours I believe.

RF

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:52 am    Post subject: Big Iron Envy Reply with quote

Here's a site that has done something very simila regarding the nav lights light the ones you've shown. Here's his link. http://www.reiffpreheat.com/RV4.htm Scroll to the bottom to see his installed pics.

Carlos in Arizona

Robin Marks wrote: [quote] <![endif]--> <![endif]-->
RV-List,
In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor’s Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID’s a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said… “me want.”
Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic “South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O’clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE traffic 2:00 O’clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737.” Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller “that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it’s really easy to pick up” COOL! Getting “at a boy’s” from commercial pilots.
I consider the Wig-Wag HID’s to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding.
The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install. http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED’s I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying.
Not exactly the LED’s I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392

Robin
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RV-10 75 Hours
RV-8A Flying 2010
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