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woxofswa

Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 349
Location: AZ

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: RV-10 Air Cond

I am getting to the point where I need to fish or cut bait on the A/C installation.



Is there anyone out there with field experience of working systems?



Any pros/cons between the two primary systems available?



To those who've done it, would you do it again?



Thanks in advance.

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Don Orrick

Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: RV-10 Air Cond

Myron,

I have the Airflow Systems A/C system on my RV-10. I would absolutely do it again. The system was straight forward to install and works great. The RV-10 has a lot of glass for the sun to heat the plane up. taxing in and out of the airport is where it really makes a big difference in hot weather, the three speed fan is nice and can be used to blow air only without the A/C compressor running. Bill Genevro is very easy to work with and will stand behind his product. The system adds 40 lbs. to the empty weight and only moves the CG aft about 3/8'' also it is a 12 volt system. In terms of speed loss due to the system I can't tell you since the system has been on the plane since day one.  Just an observation but if you live in Arizona.... Yea, you want one of these!  



Don Orrick

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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 454
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: RV-10 Air Cond

I have been flying with the Flightline AC system for 8 months in Florida. Very happy with the system and cannot imagine being without it. As Don Orrick notes, being able to have AC while taxiing is really nice. We also have the Vertical Power Climate Control System and it works great. Being able to run the cabin fan without the compressor on is desirable, and Vertical Power is still working on that. When we were building this airplane up in Minnesota, my wife was not sure we needed to put in AC, even though we knew we were moving south. She said "being hot and sweaty is just part of the light airplane experience". She has officially changed her tune and is really glad we installed AC.



David Maib

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On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:23 PM, woxofswa wrote:

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I am getting to the point where I need to fish or cut bait on the A/C installation.

Is there anyone out there with field experience of working systems?

Any pros/cons between the two primary systems available?

To those who've done it, would you do it again?

Thanks in advance.

--------

Myron Nelson

Mesa, AZ

Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress

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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject: RV-10 Air Cond

DAVE, I TOO HAVE THE SAME A/C SYSTEM. IT DOES NOT GET CHILLY IN THE CABIN ENGAGED ON A HOT CORPUS CHRISTI DAY, BUT IT KEEPS ME FROM FRYING. HOW LOW DOES YOUR SYSTEM TAKE YOU. I GET ABOUT 20 DEGREES DROP FROM AMBIENT OUT THE VENTS. ROBERT I KNOW, I LEFT MY CAPS ON. 

On Aug 30, 2009, at 8:14 PM, David Maib wrote:

[quote]I have been flying with the Flightline AC system for 8 months in Florida. Very happy with the system and cannot imagine being without it. As Don Orrick notes, being able to have AC while taxiing is really nice. We also have the Vertical Power Climate Control System and it works great. Being able to run the cabin fan without the compressor on is desirable, and Vertical Power is still working on that. When we were building this airplane up in Minnesota, my wife was not sure we needed to put in AC, even though we knew we were moving south. She said "being hot and sweaty is just part of the light airplane experience". She has officially changed her tune and is really glad we installed AC.



David Maib

40559

Flying



 



 



On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:23 PM, woxofswa wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: "woxofswa" <woxof(at)aol.com (woxof(at)aol.com)>

I am getting to the point where I need to fish or cut bait on the A/C installation.

Is there anyone out there with field experience of working systems?

Any pros/cons between the two primary systems available?

To those who've done it, would you do it again?

Thanks in advance.

--------

Myron Nelson

Mesa, AZ

Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress

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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: RV-10 Air Cond

Robert,I have not measured the drop from ambient, but I would guess 20 degrees is about right. I talked to John Strain at Flightline AC a couple of months ago and mentioned that I did not think the "High" cabin fan position put out as much air as I expected it to. He said that the cabin fan actually has four positions. Lo, medium, medium hi, and hi. The individual that wired the units for Flightline AC made a command decision and wired the bottom three for the Flightline installation. So, I really only have Lo, medium, and medium hi. I don't know if John has corrected that on recent kits. I plan to have John help me rewire it one of these days when we get out to Oregon. He tells me it is not a difficult job, but getting to the area will be difficult. However, I installed access panels on each side of the upper forward tailcone, so I do have some AC access.

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Best regards,

David Maib

 



On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote:

DAVE, I TOO HAVE THE SAME A/C SYSTEM. IT DOES NOT GET CHILLY IN THE CABIN ENGAGED ON A HOT CORPUS CHRISTI DAY, BUT IT KEEPS ME FROM FRYING. HOW LOW DOES YOUR SYSTEM TAKE YOU. I GET ABOUT 20 DEGREES DROP FROM AMBIENT OUT THE VENTS. ROBERT I KNOW, I LEFT MY CAPS ON. 

On Aug 30, 2009, at 8:14 PM, David Maib wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I have been flying with the Flightline AC system for 8 months in Florida. Very happy with the system and cannot imagine being without it. As Don Orrick notes, being able to have AC while taxiing is really nice. We also have the Vertical Power Climate Control System and it works great. Being able to run the cabin fan without the compressor on is desirable, and Vertical Power is still working on that. When we were building this airplane up in Minnesota, my wife was not sure we needed to put in AC, even though we knew we were moving south. She said "being hot and sweaty is just part of the light airplane experience". She has officially changed her tune and is really glad we installed AC.



David Maib

40559

Flying



 



 



On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:23 PM, woxofswa wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: "woxofswa" <woxof(at)aol.com (woxof(at)aol.com)>

I am getting to the point where I need to fish or cut bait on the A/C installation.

Is there anyone out there with field experience of working systems?

Any pros/cons between the two primary systems available?

To those who've done it, would you do it again?

Thanks in advance.

--------

Myron Nelson

Mesa, AZ

Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress

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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260521#260521



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David Maib
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dmaib@me.com

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: RV-10 Air Cond

Sorry about the size of that photo in my previous post. I intended to resize it before sending, but somehow missed it.



David Maib

40559

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On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:47 PM, David Maib wrote:

 Robert,I have not measured the drop from ambient, but I would guess 20 degrees is about right. I talked to John Strain at Flightline AC a couple of months ago and mentioned that I did not think the "High" cabin fan position put out as much air as I expected it to. He said that the cabin fan actually has four positions. Lo, medium, medium hi, and hi. The individual that wired the units for Flightline AC made a command decision and wired the bottom three for the Flightline installation. So, I really only have Lo, medium, and medium hi. I don't know if John has corrected that on recent kits. I plan to have John help me rewire it one of these days when we get out to Oregon. He tells me it is not a difficult job, but getting to the area will be difficult. However, I installed access panels on each side of the upper forward tailcone, so I do have some AC access.

<IMG_1610.JPG>

Best regards,

David Maib

 



On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote:

DAVE, I TOO HAVE THE SAME A/C SYSTEM. IT DOES NOT GET CHILLY IN THE CABIN ENGAGED ON A HOT CORPUS CHRISTI DAY, BUT IT KEEPS ME FROM FRYING. HOW LOW DOES YOUR SYSTEM TAKE YOU. I GET ABOUT 20 DEGREES DROP FROM AMBIENT OUT THE VENTS. ROBERT I KNOW, I LEFT MY CAPS ON. 

On Aug 30, 2009, at 8:14 PM, David Maib wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I have been flying with the Flightline AC system for 8 months in Florida. Very happy with the system and cannot imagine being without it. As Don Orrick notes, being able to have AC while taxiing is really nice. We also have the Vertical Power Climate Control System and it works great. Being able to run the cabin fan without the compressor on is desirable, and Vertical Power is still working on that. When we were building this airplane up in Minnesota, my wife was not sure we needed to put in AC, even though we knew we were moving south. She said "being hot and sweaty is just part of the light airplane experience". She has officially changed her tune and is really glad we installed AC.



David Maib

40559

Flying



 



 



On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:23 PM, woxofswa wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: "woxofswa" <woxof(at)aol.com (woxof(at)aol.com)>

I am getting to the point where I need to fish or cut bait on the A/C installation.

Is there anyone out there with field experience of working systems?

Any pros/cons between the two primary systems available?

To those who've done it, would you do it again?

Thanks in advance.

--------

Myron Nelson

Mesa, AZ

Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress

Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260521#260521



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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

rebrunk42(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:35 am Post subject: RV-10 Air Cond

no problem. at my age i like things big. robert

On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:00 AM, David Maib wrote:

[quote] Sorry about the size of that photo in my previous post. I intended to resize it before sending, but somehow missed it.



David Maib

40559

flying



 



On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:47 PM, David Maib wrote:

 Robert,I have not measured the drop from ambient, but I would guess 20 degrees is about right. I talked to John Strain at Flightline AC a couple of months ago and mentioned that I did not think the "High" cabin fan position put out as much air as I expected it to. He said that the cabin fan actually has four positions. Lo, medium, medium hi, and hi. The individual that wired the units for Flightline AC made a command decision and wired the bottom three for the Flightline installation. So, I really only have Lo, medium, and medium hi. I don't know if John has corrected that on recent kits. I plan to have John help me rewire it one of these days when we get out to Oregon. He tells me it is not a difficult job, but getting to the area will be difficult. However, I installed access panels on each side of the upper forward tailcone, so I do have some AC access.

<IMG_1610.JPG>

Best regards,

David Maib

 



On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote:

DAVE, I TOO HAVE THE SAME A/C SYSTEM. IT DOES NOT GET CHILLY IN THE CABIN ENGAGED ON A HOT CORPUS CHRISTI DAY, BUT IT KEEPS ME FROM FRYING. HOW LOW DOES YOUR SYSTEM TAKE YOU. I GET ABOUT 20 DEGREES DROP FROM AMBIENT OUT THE VENTS. ROBERT I KNOW, I LEFT MY CAPS ON. 

On Aug 30, 2009, at 8:14 PM, David Maib wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I have been flying with the Flightline AC system for 8 months in Florida. Very happy with the system and cannot imagine being without it. As Don Orrick notes, being able to have AC while taxiing is really nice. We also have the Vertical Power Climate Control System and it works great. Being able to run the cabin fan without the compressor on is desirable, and Vertical Power is still working on that. When we were building this airplane up in Minnesota, my wife was not sure we needed to put in AC, even though we knew we were moving south. She said "being hot and sweaty is just part of the light airplane experience". She has officially changed her tune and is really glad we installed AC.



David Maib

40559

Flying



 



 



On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:23 PM, woxofswa wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: "woxofswa" <woxof(at)aol.com (woxof(at)aol.com)>

I am getting to the point where I need to fish or cut bait on the A/C installation.

Is there anyone out there with field experience of working systems?

Any pros/cons between the two primary systems available?

To those who've done it, would you do it again?

Thanks in advance.

--------

Myron Nelson

Mesa, AZ

Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress

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