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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

There has been much said about filters  lately.

 This may be a new slant. I have paraphrased it from  an article in the current `Microlight magazine.

 After many months investigating sudden loss of pwer  in their 503 during which everything, fuel lines, pump,ignition etc.,  was  changed,cleaned, and so on it was found that the filter was being blocked by  microbial contamination which grew into `colonies`..

 This was intoduced into the fuel supply through  water in the  premix oil. Oil is hygroscopic(attracts water) the  oil  was being drawn from a  20 litre drum as needed. Once opened  the oil in the drum attracted water and the bacteria attached themselves to the  wall of the fuel tank.The bacteria grew on the fuel filter mesh because that was  where daylight shone through the glass.

 For those with 4 strokes.  Biofuel is now  added to petrol and this contains ethanol which is highly hygroscopic so the  same thing may be expected to happen. 

 The problem was cured by introducing a magnetic  field into the fuel line. This appaerently disrupts the cellular structure of  the microbes and prevents them growing big enough clusters to block the  filter.

 Try www.purefueltechnologies.com

  

 Hope I don`t get `done` for copyright  infringement.

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

Patrick/Gang:

  

 I'll take a dozen of those items.  My fuel is  long past due for some serious straightening.

  

 john h

 mkIII

 West Yellowstone, MT

 [quote]    This appaerently disrupts the cellular structure of the    microbes and prevents them growing big enough clusters to block the    filter.

   Try www.purefueltechnologies.com

    

   Pat

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:40 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

Hi john,

  

 I'll take a dozen of those items.  My fuel is  long past due for some serious straightening.>>

  

 Hi John,

 I must say that I did wonder why this problem had  not cropped up and been traced to its source before this.

 No reason to doubt the story. though. It was  reported as pukka gen, not an advert.

  

 Pat

 



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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:53 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

PatWe used to add "PRIST" to avgas; a bactericide that reportedly killed the bacteria living on the fuel-water interface. 

Can't prove it worked, but no troubles and  it made us feel better, esp in remote areas. 

On  the big marine diesels; 600HP and up -- in the tropics algae can grow into big enough clumps to plug up the humungous fuel filters, 6-7" across. If not run every day or two we added "BIOBOR", a powerful algicide

Russ

PS On  this side of the pond, if you're not making a profit (or trying to) on pirated copyrighted works, no one seems to care. 

I think you're safe.



On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:54 PM, pj.ladd wrote:

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		  There has been much said about filters lately.

This may be a new slant. I have paraphrased it from an article in the current `Microlight magazine.

After many months investigating sudden loss of pwer in their 503 during which everything, fuel lines, pump,ignition etc.,  was changed,cleaned, and so on it was found that the filter was being blocked by microbial contamination which grew into `colonies`..

This was intoduced into the fuel supply through water in the  premix oil. Oil is hygroscopic(attracts water) the oil  was being drawn from a  20 litre drum as needed. Once opened the oil in the drum attracted water and the bacteria attached themselves to the wall of the fuel tank.The bacteria grew on the fuel filter mesh because that was where daylight shone through the glass.

For those with 4 strokes.  Biofuel is now added to petrol and this contains ethanol which is highly hygroscopic so the same thing may be expected to happen. 

The problem was cured by introducing a magnetic field into the fuel line. This appaerently disrupts the cellular structure of the microbes and prevents them growing big enough clusters to block the filter.

Try www.purefueltechnologies.com

 

Hope I don`t get `done` for copyright infringement.

 

Cheers

 

Pat

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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

Brothers Pat and John:

 Being a slow-learner, am still pondering  whether the evidence warrants bolting magnets onto our fuel lines just  yet.... or, of more immediate consequence, whether it would be worth lining  my Adidas with refrigerator magnets to handle the athlete's foot  mess...

  

 There is sure a lot of skepticism in the literature and  across the internet about the claims that magnets can kill algae by affecting  cellular reproduction... especially when the "target" cells are exposed to the  field for only a second or two as they pass through the little magnet unit  on the fuel line.  Anecdotal evidence can be dangerous.

  

 As one astute observer pointed out, if magnetism  really does disrupt organic cellular function and reproduction, consider then  what effect prolonged exposure to  super high magnetic fields  should be capable of doing to cells -- There would have to be sick and  dying freshly-imaged patients littering the exits and parking lots of every  MRI facility in the world, and the facilities themselves would be  bacterially sterile throughout...

  

 ...just a thought...

  

 non-ferrous beauford

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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

At 10:29 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote:

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		  Brothers Pat and John:

 Being a slow-learner, am still pondering whether the evidence warrants bolting magnets onto our fuel lines just yet.... or, of more immediate consequence, whether it would be worth lining my Adidas with refrigerator magnets to handle the athlete's foot mess...

  

 There is sure a lot of skepticism in the literature and across the internet 

  

 ...just a thought...

  

 non-ferrous beauford

 	


 Cynical beauford........ 

 I've got a "Magnetic Fuel Saver" on my plane

 and I've had to put an overflow valve on both tanks. On long trips 

 I end up with more gas than I started with.



 You see Norm 

 With a magnetic field we can increase the internal energy of the fuel, 

 causing specific changes at a molecular level. Increasing the internal 

 energy to obtain more easier combustion. The molecules fly apart 

 easier, join with oxygen easier and ignite easier. 'Ionization' implies 

 that the fuel acquires a 'charge' and molecules of like charge repel 

 each other, this makes fuel dispersal more efficient. Then if you 

 charge the air to the opposite polarity, then the fuel and oxygen 

 combine far quicker than 'normal'. 



 It's all right there on the Internet!



  http://www.tinet.cat/~sje/mag_fuel.htm    [quote][b]

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Dana

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Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

At 12:54 PM 9/7/2009, pj.ladd wrote:

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		  The problem was cured by introducing a magnetic field into the fuel line. This appaerently disrupts the cellular structure of the microbes and prevents them growing big enough clusters to block the filter.

 Try www.purefueltechnologies.com 	


 Sounds like a new slant on the fuel line magnets that were supposed to "break up hydrocarbon clusters" and give you an amazing increase in your gas mileage.  When the government came down on them for false advertising, they must've found a new angle to sell those things...



 -Dana

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:16 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

When the government came down on them for  false advertising, 

they must've found a new angle to sell those  things...>>

  

 Hi Dana,

 Could be, I suppose but axccording to the article  the guy in question  did a hell of a lot of work trying to solve the  problem  before he finally got to the magnet thing.

  

 I dont know if the Microlight mag. is available on  line but you might try BMAA. Org.

  

 i am surprised that the problem and the answer have  not surfaced before, we have all been flying 2 strokes a long time. 4 strokes  are different as we have only had the 10% addition to fuel rule since  May.

  

 Magnetic bangles didn`t work for my arthritis  either.

 Cheers

  

 Pat

  

  

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:19 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

With a magnetic field we can increase the internal  energy of the fuel,

causing specific changes at a molecular level. Increasing  the internal

energy to obtain more easier combustion. The molecules fly  apart

easier, join with oxygen easier and ignite easier. 'Ionization'  implies

that the fuel acquires a 'charge' and molecules of like charge  repel

each other, this makes fuel dispersal more efficient. Then if  you

charge the air to the opposite polarity, then the fuel and  oxygen

combine far quicker than 'normal'.>>

  

 So thats where all that fuel on the hangar floor  has been coming from. It seems that the effect continues even with the engine  switched off

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

Hi Russ,

 <<On  the big marine diesels; 600HP and  up -- in the tropics algae can  

grow into big enough clumps to plug up  the humungous fuel filters,  

6-7" across. If not run every day or two  we added "BIOBOR", a  

powerful algicide>>

  

 One of the things that the guy mentioned in his  article which I did not pass on was that he found that the problem was well  known in the marine business. I think they gave him the lead on the magnet  thing..

  

 Everything conspires to stop me flying. Lovely day  to day could have flown except that I was sceduled at middayto take my wife to  watch my stepson, who works for the BBC,  filming locally. As it takes at  least 3 hours to get to the field, fly and put her away that was the morning  shot.

 This afternoon was shot because I had a church  engagement around 7 this evening. Evenings are closing in and it is too dark to  fly by about 8.

 Off to our cottage at the seaside tomorrow until  Sunday The WX? Super for the next 3 days.

 Someone up there doesn`t like me.

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat

 



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russkinne(at)mac.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

Pat

My sympathies in your having bad wx drag you over the coals. Bummer!

Good thing we can't do anything about the wx, or we'd bust our butts  

trying -- but enjoy the coast anyway. Isn't it getting coolish?

Years ago I even tried taping a couple cow-magnets to my fuel line  

(car) and it had exactly the effect I thought it would. Zilch!

Have fun,

Russ

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:14 am Post subject: Microbes in the fuel

but enjoy the coast anyway. Isn't it getting coolish?>>



Hi Russ,

Great few days away, hot in the sun and the tide began coming in around 8 in 

the morning so a lot of activity in the estuary.  Drove into a fly in   on 

the way home and met a couple of guys from my field. Last time I was at that 

fly in  I flew the Challenger there.A Lovely sunny day, light breeze but the 

temps are dropping. Needed my fleece by evening. North of England dropped 10 

degrees yesterday.

Today it is overcast and breezy. Well it would be woudn`t it?



We often get a few weeks of smooth gentle winds around now. Evenings are 

shortening. Pretty dusk ( dimpsy as we say in this part of the world)  at 

around 7.30. Have to get the plane out soon even if it is only to run the 

engine.



Cheers



Pat

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