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beberle

Joined: 08 Sep 2009
Posts: 4

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: Kitfox IV cockpit

How wide is a Kitfox IV cockpit?  Searched in vain on the web for dimensions.  I sat in the Aerotek/Eurofox demo at Oshkosh, pretty comfy cabin at 44". Not sure I could fit comfortably in much smaller...

Paul A. Franz, P.E.

Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Posts: 280
Location: Bellevue WA

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: Kitfox IV cockpit

On Sun, September 13, 2009 5:17 pm, beberle wrote:



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		   How wide is a Kitfox IV cockpit?  Searched in vain on the web for dimensions.  I sat

 in the Aerotek/Eurofox demo at Oshkosh, pretty comfy cabin at 44". Not sure I could

 fit comfortably in much smaller...


	


11 years ago, the late Miguel Ramirez and I attempted to fly together in his KF IV.

While we could twist our bodies a little for shoulder room we could not both be seated

and have ample clearance for the control sticks. So, I would say it is a little too

tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs).

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Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT

Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP

Bellevue WA



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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: Kitfox IV cockpit

I just ran out to the garage and measured my kit and here it is.   Outside of tubing to outside of tubing-- at your shoulders 39 1/2" C   bottom back of the doors is  35" C  bottom front of the doors is 33 1/4".  Take care C  Jim Chuk  Avids C Kitfox 4 C  Mn

 

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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: Kitfox IV cockpit

At 06:17 PM 9/13/2009, you wrote:

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		  So, I would say it is a little too

tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs).


	


Paul,

         This made me laugh, because I remembered my first flight in 

a Kitfox. Our own Lowell Fitt was gracious enough to offer his 

aircraft and flight instructor to me, a stranger, for an introductory 

flight. (Thanks again Lowell. It proved to be the start of more than 

one great friendship.) I'm about 6' and weighed about 200#. The 

instructor weighted about 225#. It was no problem for Lowell's Fox 

with the 912, but our comfort level was pretty low. I think we flew 

with left shoulders back and right shoulders forward. That said I 

know many who fly very long distances with two in their IV. (Steve 

Kellender just flew with a passenger from Phoenix to Homedale and back.)

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting

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Michael Logan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 82

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:56 am Post subject: Kitfox IV cockpit

The secret is for a tall person to fly with a short person, then your

shoulders do not get in each others way. :^)



Mike Logan 



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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:19 am Post subject: Kitfox IV cockpit

I weigh 220 and my son in law weighs 208.  We fit tightly in my III with 

bubble doors.



Pete

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beberle

Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit

Thanks for the info! Wish I had a kit to run out to the garage to measure

Av8r3400

Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 83
Location: North Central Wisconsin (KRRL)

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit

I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#.



We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors.  It's cozy, but not uncomfortable.  Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it.  Much better than a C150, IMO.

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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: Kitfox IV cockpit

Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information.  However, could you and others on the list please tell us  your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located.  I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us. 

  

 

  Thanks, 

  

 

  Stan Specht

  Denver, Colorado

  Kitfox Model IV Speedster 

  912ul (1570+ hours)

  

 

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: Kitfox IV cockpit

Amen!    (  do not archive   )



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs

Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying

do not archive



On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, sourdostan(at)aol.com wrote:



[quote] Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and  

 others on the list please tell us

 your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're  

 located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for  

 many of us.



 Thanks,



 Stan Specht

 Denver, Colorado

 Kitfox Model IV Speedster

 912ul (1570+ hours)

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Av8r3400

Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 83
Location: North Central Wisconsin (KRRL)

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:40 am Post subject: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit

 	  sourdostan(at)aol.com wrote: 	
		  Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information.  However, could you and others on the list please tell us  your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located.  I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us. 

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Some people (like me) just aren't comfortable putting too much personal information on the public portions of the WWW .  Maybe I'm just paranoid.  



Stan, my name is Larry, I think that my wife and I met you this year at Airventure.  I was looking at your Columbine for ideas on my IV-1200 restoration.  I'd send you a PM with my personal contact info, but you aren't registered for that...

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