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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

Hi  

   

I notice that there are a number of screws in the canopy doors as well as in the canopy itself. I am wondering what people are doing with respect to these screws prior to painting. Are they being glassed over or left as is?  

   

Inquiring minds need to know  

   

Les  

#40643 – Still in f/g hell  

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rnewman(at)tcwtech.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:16 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

Those of us from the Glastar world have about 100  screws to cover up in the glass work, a small patch of light weight fiberglass  cloth over each screw is the way to make them go away with proper body  work.

  

 -Bob Newman

  

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

don't cover them unless you are sure that you will  never have to remove them again. 

   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  Bob-tcw

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:47 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Screws in  Canopy

 Those of us from the Glastar world have about 100  screws to cover up in the glass work, a small patch of light weight fiberglass  cloth over each screw is the way to make them go away with proper body  work.

 -Bob Newman

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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

Also David forgot to mention what he told me and I totally agree with....stainless countersink washers on all glass to metal fasteners points...spreads the load and stops the composite from cracking and spreads the load ...Rick SkedN246RS 

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From:  "David McNeill" 

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:40:08 -0700

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

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don't cover them unless you are sure that you = will=20never have to remove them again. =

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Those of us from the Glastar world have = about 100=20 screws to cover up in the glass work, a small patch of light weight = fiberglass=20 cloth over each screw is the way to make them go away with proper body=20 work.

-Bob Newman

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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

Hi Rick  

   

Do you have a source / part # for the stainless counter sunk washers?  These Tinnerman washers are similar to ones used on my Cherokee f/g tail cone but they are not glassed in. See link http://www.airpartsinc.com/products/ss-tinnerman-c-s-washers.htm Are these what you are suggesting?  

   

Cheers  

   

Les  

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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

Spruce sells them in number 6, 8 and upper sizes...I bought larger ones for the seatbelts and main axel bolts on the pants....but if I recall Wicks. Sells them too...they really make a difference in wear and in appearance.  I'm getting ready to paint my pants and fairings and plan to mold them into the glass...got the idea from Deems who helped a friend do the same..

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From:  "Les Kearney" 

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:18:57 -0600

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: RV10-List: Screws  in Canopy

  

Hi = Rick 

  

Do you have a source / part # for = the stainless counter sunk washers?  These Tinnerman washers are = similar to ones used on my Cherokee f/g tail cone but they are not glassed in. See link =http://www.airpartsinc.com/products/ss-tinnerman-c-s-washers.htm Are these what you are suggesting? 

  

Cheers 

  

Les 

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

Aircraft spruce

  

 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?query=04-00398&search=1



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Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:19 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

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Hi  Rick 

  

Do you have a source /  part # for the stainless counter sunk washers?  These Tinnerman washers are  similar to ones used on my Cherokee f/g tail cone but they are not glassed in.  See link http://www.airpartsinc.com/products/ss-tinnerman-c-s-washers.htm  Are these what you are suggesting? 

  

Cheers 

  

Les

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partner14

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

Spruce has 2 different kinds... I use the stainless ones... page 96 of the 2008/09 catalog, part # 04-00397, 00392 and 00398.  If you want some of the Tinnerman countersunk washers, I'll make someone a special deal on some....  the stainless ones are shinier.

 Don McDonald



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From: Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca>

Subject: RE: Screws in Canopy

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Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:18 PM



       

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Do you have a source / part # for the stainless counter sunk washers?  These Tinnerman washers are similar to ones used on my Cherokee f/g tail cone but they are not glassed in. See link http://www.airpartsinc.com/products/ss-tinnerman-c-s-washers.htm Are these what you are suggesting?

 

 

 

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nukeflyboy

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Screws in Canopy

I'm not sure you got your question answered.  There are about 30-40 screws that bolt the cabin top to the fuselage.  These will never come out again, assuming you followed the plans and epoxied the bugger in place.  I am filling them in with micro-balloons.  On the roof of the cabin top are 4 screws that bolt the window brace, 16 on the hinges, and 2 for the front seat harnesses.  I will leave these alone, just in case.



I use washers under countersunk screws in thin fiberglass (spinner, fairings, etc.) but see no need for them in the thick glass on the cabin top.

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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: Screws in Canopy

Rick  

   

Did you embed these in the doors as well and then glass over them? Did you cover the screw heads?  

   

Cheers  

   

Les  

         

  

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Spruce sells them in number 6, 8 and upper sizes...I bought larger ones for the seatbelts and main axel bolts on the pants....but if I recall Wicks. Sells them too...they really make a difference in wear and in appearance. I'm getting ready to paint my pants and fairings and plan to mold them into the glass...got the idea from Deems who helped a friend do the same..  

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