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601XL/650 solid rivits required

 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: 601XL/650 solid rivits required Reply with quote

Can any one confirm the total number of solid rivits and sizes for a
601xl/650
Who can supply these
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John Brumpton


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 601XL/650 solid rivits required Reply with quote

John,
I'm not positive about this as I'm using solid rivets in many places where they aren't called for on the plans, but I think for the most part the quantities (for the solid rivets) are called out on the drawings. For instance on my drawings for 6w3 (Wing Spar) the drawing says AN-470-AD-6-14 (RIVETS 142 Required). and AN-470-AD-5-9 (136 Required). There are 2 Spars so you have to double those numbers. The carry-through calls for 68 AN-470-AD-5-9. Of course you'd want to round up and have some to replace the ones you loose or mangle and have to drill out etc. Make sure you get AD rivets, as those are the hard ones. I know when I started my project one of the first things I did was to go through all the drawings and put notes on them for numbers of rivets and to convert metric to English units.
Hope this helps.
Dan

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Can any one confirm the total number of solid rivits and sizes for a
601xl/650
Who can supply these
Regards
John Brumpton


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:19 pm    Post subject: 601XL/650 solid rivits required Reply with quote

John, Aircraft Spruce or Wicks would be reliable sources for rivets.

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John,
I'm not positive about this as I'm using solid rivets in many places where they aren't called for on the plans, but I think for the most part the quantities (for the solid rivets) are called out on the drawings. For instance on my drawings for 6w3 (Wing Spar) the drawing says AN-470-AD-6-14 (RIVETS 142 Required). and AN-470-AD-5-9 (136 Required). There are 2 Spars so you have to double those numbers. The carry-through calls for 68 AN-470-AD-5-9. Of course you'd want to round up and have some to replace the ones you loose or mangle and have to drill out etc. Make sure you get AD rivets, as those are the hard ones. I know when I started my project one of the first things I did was to go through all the drawings and put notes on them for numbers of rivets and to convert metric to English units.
Hope this helps.
Dan
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Can any one confirm the total number of solid rivits and sizes for a
601xl/650
Who can supply these
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject: 601XL/650 solid rivits required Reply with quote

John,

In addition to the structural rivets Dan talks about, you are going to need a bunch of the small, soft, flush head rivets for attaching plate nuts. The ones that ZAC supplied with the kit really weren't long enough, so I ordered a bunch from either Wicks or Spruce. They sell by the pound, not by units. I think I ordered 1/4 pound and got plenty.

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--> Zenith601-List message posted by: "leinad" <leinad(at)hughes.net (leinad(at)hughes.net)>

John,
I'm not positive about this as I'm using solid rivets in many places where they
aren't called for on the plans, but I think for the most part the quantities
(for the solid rivets) are called out on the drawings. For instance on my
drawings for 6w3 (Wing Spar) the drawing says AN-470-AD-6-14 (RIVETS 142
Required). and AN-470-AD-5-9 (136 Required). There are 2 Spars so you have to
double those numbers. The carry-through calls for 68 AN-470-AD-5-9. Of course
you'd want to round up and have some to replace the ones you loose or mangle and
have to drill out etc. Make sure you get AD rivets, as those are the hard ones.
I know when I started my project one of the first things I did was to go through
all the drawings and put notes on them for numbers of rivets and to convert
metric to English units.
Hope this helps.
Dan


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject: 601XL/650 solid rivits required Reply with quote

Zenith has all the rivets you will need, just give them a call.

John Read
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: 601XL/650 solid rivits required Reply with quote

John, and others

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From the 601XL parts database on the Zenith web site, Excel counted this
many.


3/32" BLIND RIVETS 68
1/8" BLIND RIVETS 4960
5/32" BLIND RIVETS 4340

You asked for confirmation on solid rivets. I would suggest you buy 1/2 lb.
of each size that's listed on the drawings.
Solid rivets are inexpensive. I buy most of my solid rivets from Genuine
Aircraft Hardware.
Zenith will sell you all the blind rivets you want. They claim to do QC
checks on the rivets they sell.

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Scott Bevier
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