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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Hi:

My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does
not work.

Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest...

Is a pain removing all thos bolts..

Thanks for sugestions,

Bert

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Bert –
Where is it leaking?
At a rivet?
Along a baffle seam?

neal

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Subject: Leaking tank


Hi:



My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does

not work.



Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest...



Is a pain removing all thos bolts..



Thanks for sugestions,



Bert


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

My tank was leaking just through the leading edge rivets. My mech put on, very tightly, a sort-of plastic tape substance (with no air bubbles) - three years ago and I've had no leaks since. Will get the name of the stuff if you want it, but it looks like very basic stuff. If your actual tank is leaking elsewhere then I suppose (sort of obvious) this won't work for you without taking all the bolts out, anyway.
                Tom

In a message dated 9/16/2009 5:04:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robertrv09(at)yahoo.com writes:
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Hi:

My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does
not work.

Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest...

Is a pain removing all thos bolts..

Thanks for sugestions,

Bert

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:16 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Yes, Tom. I would like the name of this stuff as I have that same leading edge leak.

Keith Hedrick
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My tank was leaking just through the leading edge rivets. My mech put on, very tightly, a sort-of plastic tape substance (with no air bubbles) - three years ago and I've had no leaks since. Will get the name of the stuff if you want it, but it looks like very basic stuff. If your actual tank is leaking elsewhere then I suppose (sort of obvious) this won't work for you without taking all the bolts out, anyway.

              Tom



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Hi:



My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does

not work.



Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest...



Is a pain removing all thos bolts..



Thanks for sugestions,



Bert


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Keith - I just talked to my mech, and - to my surprise - he couldn't remember the name of the product!

But he will, and I've asked him to call me right away when he does, and we'll get it to you. Tom

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

No prob. thanks for asking. Maybe he will remember.

kt


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Keith - I just talked to my mech, and - to my surprise - he couldn't remember the name of the product!



But he will, and I've asked him to call me right away when he does, and we'll get it to you. Tom



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

He will.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:43 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Hello
Nedd help, have my right tank on my rv6a with a small leak..
I did tried using proseal on the edeges, lthat did not work, or I did a bad job..


Any sugestions from those with experience on this problem?

Woul appreciate it,,

thanks

robert

rv6a


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Neal:

is on the Inboard, (fuselage) side, along the rivet line .

thanks

robert

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From: Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com>
Subject: RE: Leaking tank
To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM


Bert –

Where is it leaking?

At a rivet?

Along a baffle seam?



neal



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To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Leaking tank




Hi:





My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does


not work.





Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest...





Is a pain removing all thos bolts..





Thanks for sugestions,





Bert



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:21 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Hi:

I have posted this before, keep getting a message rejected. don'[Tknow why.

here is again...

I need help, with suggestions ideas , I have one of the tanks on my rv6a is leaking..

it seems, to be on the inboard side (fuselage side) right tank..along the rivets...

Appreciate any advice, or suggestions to solve this..


Robert
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

I posted also an e mail C I have the same problem on my rv6a leaking tank r/s.  any suggestions
will be appreciated
 
robert
 
rv6a
 
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Subject: RE: Leaking tank
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No prob.  thanks for asking.  Maybe he will remember.
 
kt
 

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Keith   -   I just talked to my mech C and - to my surprise - he couldn't remember the name of the product!

 

But he will C and I've asked him to call me right away when he does C and we'll get it to you.        Tom

 

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Tom:
 
Thank for the reply C if you could send me the name of the product will appreciated..
 
I tried C the Pro seal stuff C C C but did not worked C or I did a bad job...
 
thanks
 
robert
 
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Date: Wed C 16 Sep 2009 22:57:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Leaking tank
To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com

My tank was leaking just through the leading edge rivets. My mech put on C very tightly C a sort-of plastic tape substance (with no air bubbles) - three years ago and I've had no leaks since. Will get the name of the stuff if you want it C but it looks like very basic stuff. If your actual tank is leaking elsewhere then I suppose (sort of obvious) this won't work for you without taking all the bolts out C anyway.
                                                                                                              Tom
 
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My right tank C on my rv6a is leaking C  I tried puting Pro seal on the out side C that does
not work.
 
Need the best way of doing this C and of course C if possible the easiest...
 
Is a pain removing all thos bolts..
 
Thanks for sugestions C
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

what is your life worth,do the bolts, I know it is a pain.Every time Irun into a prblem I asked the same question.
Bud
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From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Leaking tank
To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM
Neal:
 
is on the Inboard,  (fuselage) side, along the
rivet line .
 
thanks
 
robert

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From: Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com>
Subject: RE: Leaking tank
To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM








Bert –

Where is it
leaking?
At a
rivet?
Along a baffle
seam?
 
neal
 

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To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Leaking tank
 





Hi:

 

My right tank, on my rv6a is
leaking,  I tried puting Pro seal on the out side ,
that does

not work.

 

Need the best way of doing this, and
of course, if possible the easiest...

 

Is a pain removing all thos
bolts..

 

Thanks for sugestions,

 

Bert

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Thanks Bud:

But the questions I have is, how do you fix the problem,,, I wANT TO HEAR SOLUTIONS

how do you seal so lthere is no leaks?

thanks

robert
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Subject: RE: Leaking tank
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Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM
Neal:

is on the Inboard, (fuselage) side, along the
rivet line .

thanks

robert

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From: Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com (n8zg(at)mchsi.com)>
Subject: RE: Leaking tank
To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com (rv6-list(at)matronics.com)
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM








Bert –

Where is it
leaking?
At a
rivet?
Along a baffle
seam?

neal


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Robert Murillo
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM
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Subject: Leaking tank






Hi:



My right tank, on my rv6a is
leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side ,
that does

not work.



Need the best way of doing this, and
of course, if possible the easiest...



Is a pain removing all thos
bolts..



Thanks for sugestions,



Bert

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Tom:

Could you find the name of the product you are talking about..

I will give it a try of course..

thanks for the help

robert
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My tank was leaking just through the leading edge rivets. My mech put on, very tightly, a sort-of plastic tape substance (with no air bubbles) - three years ago and I've had no leaks since. Will get the name of the stuff if you want it, but it looks like very basic stuff. If your actual tank is leaking elsewhere then I suppose (sort of obvious) this won't work for you without taking all the bolts out, anyway.
                Tom

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My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does
not work.

Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest...

Is a pain removing all thos bolts..

Thanks for sugestions,

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Check the fuel sender plate first. these tend to leak and are easy to reseal without removing the tank. If your leak is showing at the fuselage wing intersection.
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From: Balone Marine <balone_99(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Leaking tank
To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 5:06 PM

Balone Marine <balone_99(at)yahoo.com>

what is your life worth,do the bolts, I know it is a
pain.Every time Irun into a prblem I asked the same
question.
Bud
--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com>
wrote:

> From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: Leaking tank
> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM
> Neal:
>  
> is on the Inboard,  (fuselage) side, along the
> rivet line .
>  
> thanks
>  
> robert
>
> --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Neal George
> <n8zg(at)mchsi.com>
wrote:
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> From: Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com>
> Subject: RE: Leaking tank
> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM
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> Bert –
>
> Where is it
> leaking?
> At a
> rivet?
> Along a baffle
> seam?
>  
> neal
>  
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM
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> Subject: Leaking tank
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> Hi:
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> My right tank, on my rv6a is
> leaking,  I tried puting Pro seal on the out side ,
> that does
>
> not work.
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> Need the best way of doing this, and
> of course, if possible the easiest...
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> Is a pain removing all thos
> bolts..
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> Thanks for sugestions,
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> Bert
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Robert Murillo wrote:
Quote:

Thanks Bud:

But the questions I have is, how do you fix the problem,,, I wANT TO
HEAR SOLUTIONS

how do you seal so lthere is no leaks?

thanks

robert

I just fixed mine and was successful in stopping 12 rivets from weeping

and/or leaking on the right tank of my RV-7A. I spent far more time
trying to come up with an easy fix than it took to fix it once I finally
gave up and removed the tank.

My procedure was:
1. Order the MK 319 BS Monel pulled rivets from Wicks.

2. Use the extra tank end cover, that Van's sends for the sender you
didn't use, as template and cut an access opening in the rear baffle,
drill mounting holes and install nut plates.

3. Make a new cover from .040 aluminum.

4. Drill out the leaking rivets.

5. Vacuum out the drill shavings from drilling out the rivets.

6. Mix up Proseal and cover the drilled out rivet holes both inside and
outside.

7. Put in the pulled pop rivets.

8. On the inside of the tank, using an acid brush, smear the Proseal
liberally over and around the new rivets.

9. Smear Proseal liberally around the sealing surface of the new access
cover and over all of the screw holes.

10. Screw the access cover on and set aside for several days while the
Proseal cures.

11. Don't worry about the Proseal that you liberally smeared on the
outside over the new rivets.

12. After the Proseal has cured, use a single edge razor blade to remove
most of the excess Proseal on the outside. Remove the rest with a
vibrating sander with 180 grit open coat (grey) sandpaper.

13. I went ahead and re-painted the tank and re-installed it on my plane.

14. You will notice I didn't leak test the tank after the fix. I think
my original leak testing was part of the problem. I had already decided
that "it is what it is." If it still leaked it was just going to have
to leak until Spring.

The whole process including the curing of the Proseal took three days.
The fix was done in just a few hours. Quit trying to come up with a
quick cure and do it right.

Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, flying since June 24, 2009


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:46 am    Post subject: Leaking tank Reply with quote

Thanks for the  suggestion
 
robert
 
[quote] Date: Sat C 19 Sep 2009 21:21:57 -0500
From: steve(at)newtech.com
To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Leaking tank

--> RV6-List message posted by: Steven Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>

Robert Murillo wrote:
>
> Thanks Bud:
>
> But the questions I have is C how do you fix the problem C C C I wANT TO
> HEAR SOLUTIONS
>
> how do you seal so lthere is no leaks?
>
> thanks
>
> robert
>
I just fixed mine and was successful in stopping 12 rivets from weeping
and/or leaking on the right tank of my RV-7A. I spent far more time
trying to come up with an easy fix than it took to fix it once I finally
gave up and removed the tank.

My procedure was:
1. Order the MK 319 BS Monel pulled rivets from Wicks.

2. Use the extra tank end cover C that Van's sends for the sender you
didn't use C as template and cut an access opening in the rear baffle C
drill mounting holes and install nut plates.

3. Make a new cover from .040 aluminum.

4. Drill out the leaking rivets.

5. Vacuum out the drill shavings from drilling out the rivets.

6. Mix up Proseal and cover the drilled out rivet holes both inside and
outside.

7. Put in the pulled pop rivets.

8. On the inside of the tank C using an acid brush C smear the Proseal
liberally over and around the new rivets.

9. Smear Proseal liberally around the sealing surface of the new access
cover and over all of the screw holes.

10. Screw the access cover on and set aside for several days while the
Proseal cures.

11. Don't worry about the Proseal that you liberally smeared on the
outside over the new rivets.

12. After the Proseal has cured C use a single edge razor blade to remove
most of the excess Proseal on the outside. Remove the rest with a
vibrating sander with 180 grit open coat (grey) sandpaper.

13. I went ahead and re-painted the tank and re-installed it on my plane.

14. You will notice I didn't leak test the tank after the fix. I think
my original leak testing was part of the problem. I had already decided
that "it is what it is." If it still leaked it was just going to have
to leak until Spring.

The whole process including the curing of the Proseal took three days.
The fix was done in just a few hours. Quit trying to come up with a
quick cure and do it right.

Steve Eberhart
RV-7A C flying since June 24 C 2009&gt============



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