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 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: Carson City |
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Gang,
It was a pleasure to meet so many Commander owners and enthusiasts in Carson City. The collective knowledge in the room was amazing and well worth the trip. Hats off to the "extra" skill sets some of you clearly possess. Like classic car acquisition, prison inmate relations, law enforcement communications, and in Morris' case, reselling the same brake parts! Dinner with R.A. (Bob) Hoover was special. Thanks to Jim (and wife), and John Towner for getting it all done.
I have a technical question on my fuel system (560F) which begs some expert response.
Problem. After fueling the main tank to 100 gallons, and the aux tanks to max (32.5 gal), I let plane sit overnight. The next day, 5 to 10 gallons is missing from the rt aux, but appears to have "drained" into the main. The parts manual shows no common route in my book for this kind of "cross-feed". So far, my solenoids have all been rebuild, and the vents checked to make sure they are clear. Any ideas what the problem is?
Regards and thanks again for a great time.
Craig
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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Fellow Commander Folks,
This really was a super Commander get together!
If anyone is interested the 1988 Oldsmobile that Buddy and I purchased was sold for $ 250.00.
Best regards,
Moe Mills
N680RR
Past Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: craig kennedy (white_rhino_ps(at)yahoo.com)
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:05 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Carson City
Gang,
It was a pleasure to meet so many Commander owners and enthusiasts in Carson City. The collective knowledge in the room was amazing and well worth the trip. Hats off to the "extra" skill sets some of you clearly possess. Like classic car acquisition, prison inmate relations, law enforcement communications, and in Morris' case, reselling the same brake parts! Dinner with R.A. (Bob) Hoover was special. Thanks to Jim (and wife), and John Towner for getting it all done.
I have a technical question on my fuel system (560F) which begs some expert response.
Problem. After fueling the main tank to 100 gallons, and the aux tanks to max (32.5 gal), I let plane sit overnight. The next day, 5 to 10 gallons is missing from the rt aux, but appears to have "drained" into the main. The parts manual shows no common route in my book for this kind of "cross-feed". So far, my solenoids have all been rebuild, and the vents checked to make sure they are clear. Any ideas what the problem is?
Regards and thanks again for a great time.
Craig
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dongirod
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| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Craig;
I have the same problem with my 560E, if I let it sit for awhile, the right wing tank drains some fuel into the main. I just don't fill the wing tanks until I am ready to go fly and then use them first down to about 15 gals each which is my emergency fuel. I too would be interested in why, I have figured its just an O ring someplace.
Don
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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:59 am Post subject: Carson City |
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Thanks for the kind words!!!! That is what is happening. Both the main and aux fuel valves are leaking allowing fuel to pass between the tanks. They will need to be re "O" ringed. The "O" rings are special, of course, so call Morris for the parts. jb
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Peter Bichier
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: Carson City photos! |
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Fellow Commanders,
Well, this is the moment some of you have been waiting for and before I get involved further in my work I'll post the photos of the meeting.
I have not have a chance to comment on the photos, that can wait, meanwhile you all can flip through and download what you want.
we have 2 folders:
the TCFG in Carson City:
http://picasaweb.google.com/YVABE560/TCFG09?feat=directlink
and Reno Air Races:
http://picasaweb.google.com/YVABE560/Reno09?feat=directlink
ENJOY!
previously (don't know if it went through):
Hello Commanders,
nice video, great time in Carson City and Reno, of course, and yeap, the U2 flew over our box a couple of times, another close encounter and personal!
I just got off the plane, I'll try to down load and sort through my 1500+ photos... will post them soon... I still have the image of the P-51D Mustang flying over at 515 mph... incredible experience!
Hope your wife is recovering Nico,
Dan & Teresa we missed you for sure, the night life was not nearly close to Downtown OK ... (thanks for that outing at the Wormy Dog!)
we still had lots of laugh with Moe and Buddy buying a suspicious 1982 Cutlass as transportation mode... too many stories to tell! (but to give you a hint the deal involved jail, a trunk that would not open, no tags, a few lights to fix, and of course the cops!...
Jim don't let the FAA let you down, keep on walking, staying healthy and get as much advice from the AOPO or EAA, they really can be helpful,
Mason, hope you are slowly recovering from your accident,
we missed you all and hopefully see you next time!
sincerely,
Peter
PD. and do I even need to mention..., dinner with Bob A. Hoover!????
incredible!
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Bob.Steele(at)kzf.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: Carson City |
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Moe,
Need more cow bell!
Was this a used car dealer – on the way to the airport - as planned?
Bob
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:05 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Carson City
[b]Fellow Commander Folks,[/b]
[b]This really was a super Commander get together! [/b]
[b]If anyone is interested the 1988 Oldsmobile that Buddy and I purchased was sold for $ 250.00.[/b]
[b]Best regards,[/b]
[b]Moe Mills[/b]
[b]N680RR[/b]
[b]Past Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award[/b]
From: craig kennedy (white_rhino_ps(at)yahoo.com)
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:05 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Carson City
Gang,
It was a pleasure to meet so many Commander owners and enthusiasts in Carson City. The collective knowledge in the room was amazing and well worth the trip. Hats off to the "extra" skill sets some of you clearly possess. Like classic car acquisition, prison inmate relations, law enforcement communications, and in Morris' case, reselling the same brake parts! Dinner with R.A. (Bob) Hoover was special. Thanks to Jim (and wife), and John Towner for getting it all done.
I have a technical question on my fuel system (560F) which begs some expert response.
Problem. After fueling the main tank to 100 gallons, and the aux tanks to max (32.5 gal), I let plane sit overnight. The next day, 5 to 10 gallons is missing from the rt aux, but appears to have "drained" into the main. The parts manual shows no common route in my book for this kind of "cross-feed". So far, my solenoids have all been rebuild, and the vents checked to make sure they are clear. Any ideas what the problem is?
Regards and thanks again for a great time.
Craig
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BertBerry1(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: Carson City |
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Hey Peter,
Which Turbo Prop is the Red/White and Gold one? Do you have something with the tail number or do you know who the owner is? Photo #57
Bert
In a message dated 9/25/2009 1:14:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pbichie(at)UTNet.UToledo.Edu writes:
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Fellow Commanders,
Well, this is the moment some of you have been waiting for and before I get involved further in my work I'll post the photos of the meeting.
I have not have a chance to comment on the photos, that can wait, meanwhile you all can flip through and download what you want.
we have 2 folders:
the TCFG in Carson City:
http://picasaweb.google.com/YVABE560/TCFG09?feat=directlink
and Reno Air Races:
http://picasaweb.google.com/YVABE560/Reno09?feat=directlink
ENJOY!
previously (don't know if it went through):
Hello Commanders,
nice video, great time in Carson City and Reno, of course, and yeap, the U2 flew over our box a couple of times, another close encounter and personal!
I just got off the plane, I'll try to down load and sort through my 1500+ photos... will post them soon... I still have the image of the P-51D Mustang flying over at 515 mph... incredible experience!
Hope your wife is recovering Nico,
Dan & Teresa we missed you for sure, the night life was not nearly close to Downtown OK ... (thanks for that outing at the Wormy Dog!)
we still had lots of laugh with Moe and Buddy buying a suspicious 1982 Cutlass as transportation mode... too many stories to tell! (but to give you a hint the deal involved jail, a trunk that would not open, no tags, a few lights to fix, and of course the cops!...
Jim don't let the FAA let you down, keep on walking, staying healthy and get as much advice from the AOPO or EAA, they really can be helpful,
Mason, hope you are slowly recovering from your accident,
we missed you all and hopefully see you next time!
sincerely,
Peter
PD. and do I even need to mention..., dinner with Bob A. Hoover!????
incredible!
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Peter Bichier
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Hey Bert,
the Turbo Prop is John Kamp's 690A N52PY serial # 11196with DASH10 Renaissance conversion on 5-9-2000.
John is on photo #150 (in the middle) and to his left is Morris Kernick, always teaching us technicalities on the Commanders, gave a great talk on engine mounts and their maintenance.
have a good one! and remember, you can download any pictures and if you want any more, let me know.
p.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Thanks Peter
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Hey Bert,
the Turbo Prop is John Kamp's 690A N52PY serial # 11196with DASH10 Renaissance conversion on 5-9-2000.
John is on photo #150 (in the middle) and to his left is Morris Kernick, always teaching us technicalities on the Commanders, gave a great talk on engine mounts and their maintenance.
have a good one! and remember, you can download any pictures and if you want any more, let me know.
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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Very nice pictures, Peter. Thanks. I could make out some name tags to put
faces to the names. Overall, a great presentation of the week. The pictures
of Bob Hoover were of particular value to me as I met Mr. Hoover back in the
'70s when he performed in South Africa at the Lanseria airport. He
autographed my program, too, which since was lost in the move to the U.S. in
'93. It would have been particularly nice to meet with him again after all
these years.
My wife spent six days the ICU and after another week in the regular ward,
she was released from the hospital this week. She still needs 24x7 care and
oxygen and daily outpatient visits to the hospital for continued treatment.
It was certainly not a time for me to be away. It just goes to show how
quickly things can change. Thanks for asking.
Well, there's always next year but there's not much hope of meeting with Bob
Hoover any time soon.
Thanks
Nico
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Peter,
I'd like to look at all of them.
Thanks
Nico
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John Vormbaum
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Nico,
Our thoughts are with you & your wife. I hope she has a speedy recovery!
We missed you this year. I'm still hoping you make it to a fly-in so that I
can put a face with the name.
Cheers,
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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Thanks, John.
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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Nico,
Sorry you were unable to attend, but definitely your wife's health is priority #1. Wishing her a very speedy recovery.
~Jim & Sue
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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Thanks for sharing your great pictures Peter. What a GREAT time we had with the TCFG folks at the Fly-in and Reno Air Races. We still have BIG smiles on our faces from the wonderful time we had!!!!
For those of you unable to attend you really need to carve time out of your schedule to come meet Peter next year -- his enthusiasm is really infectuous!!! And we could really use some more help keeping Buddy and Moe in line and out of trouble (hehe!!!)
~Jim & Sue
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Hi Nico, you guys are still in our prayers. God bless, Andrew
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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I’m sorry to have missed you all during the Fly-In!
I own a team that races at Reno- and while I had planned to take a day off to visit at the Fly-In- we suddenly found ourselves in first place (by 0.18 knots) and as such my time was completely consumed with trying to find another tenth of a knot to maintain our lead.
We wound up finishing in first- but a meager 0.08 knots- so of course every member of the team is claiming that that last wax buff, or screw tightened made all the difference. (In reality- it was our race pilot… incredible work on his part to hold off a very determined competitor!)
Hopefully next year’s fly-in won’t conflict with racing and we’ll be able to make the trip to wherever it might be!
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:29 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Carson City
Thanks for sharing your great pictures Peter. What a GREAT time we had with the TCFG folks at the Fly-in and Reno Air Races. We still have BIG smiles on our faces from the wonderful time we had!!!!
For those of you unable to attend you really need to carve time out of your schedule to come meet Peter next year -- his enthusiasm is really infectuous!!! And we could really use some more help keeping Buddy and Moe in line and out of trouble (hehe!!!)
~Jim & Sue
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: Carson City |
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Hi Folks,
Been stuck in 'crowd killers' for the last 24 hours or so, but it is time for me to add my thanks to Jim and Sue for a great TCFG Flyin! Attending is always an absolute joy and highlight of the year.
Many thanks to the Commander owners for turning up...thirteen aircraft this year...wow!
Sincere thanks to John Towner for making our dinner with Mr Hoover possible and for 'floating' the Reno Races idea.
Well done to Peter for capturing those many spontaneous moments that are always so thick on the ground at these flyins.
Congratulations to Moe for being such a magnanimous holder of the 'Golden Peddle Award' for 2009!
Be sure to put the end of September in your diaries for 2010 and plan on getting along...celebrating a decade of Commanderland...our style!
Cheers
Russell
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[quote]I’m sorry to have missed you all during the Fly-In!
I own a team that races at Reno- and while I had planned to take a day off to visit at the Fly-In- we suddenly found ourselves in first place (by 0.18 knots) and as such my time was completely consumed with trying to find another tenth of a knot to maintain our lead.
We wound up finishing in first- but a meager 0.08 knots- so of course every member of the team is claiming that that last wax buff, or screw tightened made all the difference. (In reality- it was our race pilot… incredible work on his part to hold off a very determined competitor!)
Hopefully next year’s fly-in won’t conflict with racing and we’ll be able to make the trip to wherever it might be!
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com][/email]) On Behalf Of yourtcfg(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Re: Carson City
Thanks for sharing your great pictures Peter. What a GREAT time we had with the TCFG folks at the Fly-in and Reno Air Races. We still have BIG smiles on our faces from the wonderful time we had!!!!
For those of you unable to attend you really need to carve time out of your schedule to come meet Peter next year -- his enthusiasm is really infectuous!!! And we could really use some more help keeping Buddy and Moe in line and out of trouble (hehe!!!)
~Jim & Sue
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: Carson City |
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Bob,
Sorry to be so late in answering, however, I have been incommunicado for the last several days. Actually, the car went to Carson Aviation Services, which is the business where we all tied down.
Regards,
Moe
From: Steele, Bob (Bob.Steele(at)kzf.com)
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:22 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Carson City
Moe,
Need more cow bell!
Was this a used car dealer – on the way to the airport - as planned?
Bob
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:05 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Carson City
[b]Fellow Commander Folks,[/b]
[b]This really was a super Commander get together! [/b]
[b]If anyone is interested the 1988 Oldsmobile that Buddy and I purchased was sold for $ 250.00.[/b]
[b]Best regards,[/b]
[b]Moe Mills[/b]
[b]N680RR[/b]
[b]Past Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award[/b]
From: craig kennedy (white_rhino_ps(at)yahoo.com)
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:05 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Carson City
Gang,
It was a pleasure to meet so many Commander owners and enthusiasts in Carson City. The collective knowledge in the room was amazing and well worth the trip. Hats off to the "extra" skill sets some of you clearly possess. Like classic car acquisition, prison inmate relations, law enforcement communications, and in Morris' case, reselling the same brake parts! Dinner with R.A. (Bob) Hoover was special. Thanks to Jim (and wife), and John Towner for getting it all done.
I have a technical question on my fuel system (560F) which begs some expert response.
Problem. After fueling the main tank to 100 gallons, and the aux tanks to max (32.5 gal), I let plane sit overnight. The next day, 5 to 10 gallons is missing from the rt aux, but appears to have "drained" into the main. The parts manual shows no common route in my book for this kind of "cross-feed". So far, my solenoids have all been rebuild, and the vents checked to make sure they are clear. Any ideas what the problem is?
Regards and thanks again for a great time.
Craig
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Moe,
Crew Car.
Great
Bob
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:29 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Carson City
[b]Bob,[/b]
[b]Sorry to be so late in answering, however, I have been incommunicado for the last several days. Actually, the car went to Carson Aviation Services, which is the business where we all tied down. [/b]
[b]Regards,[/b]
[b]Moe[/b]
From: Steele, Bob (Bob.Steele(at)kzf.com)
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:22 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Carson City
Moe,
Need more cow bell!
Was this a used car dealer – on the way to the airport - as planned?
Bob
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:05 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Carson City
[b]Fellow Commander Folks,[/b]
[b]This really was a super Commander get together! [/b]
[b]If anyone is interested the 1988 Oldsmobile that Buddy and I purchased was sold for $ 250.00.[/b]
[b]Best regards,[/b]
[b]Moe Mills[/b]
[b]N680RR[/b]
[b]Past Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award[/b]
From: craig kennedy (white_rhino_ps(at)yahoo.com)
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:05 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Carson City
Gang,
It was a pleasure to meet so many Commander owners and enthusiasts in Carson City. The collective knowledge in the room was amazing and well worth the trip. Hats off to the "extra" skill sets some of you clearly possess. Like classic car acquisition, prison inmate relations, law enforcement communications, and in Morris' case, reselling the same brake parts! Dinner with R.A. (Bob) Hoover was special. Thanks to Jim (and wife), and John Towner for getting it all done.
I have a technical question on my fuel system (560F) which begs some expert response.
Problem. After fueling the main tank to 100 gallons, and the aux tanks to max (32.5 gal), I let plane sit overnight. The next day, 5 to 10 gallons is missing from the rt aux, but appears to have "drained" into the main. The parts manual shows no common route in my book for this kind of "cross-feed". So far, my solenoids have all been rebuild, and the vents checked to make sure they are clear. Any ideas what the problem is?
Regards and thanks again for a great time.
Craig
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