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pequeajim
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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Location: New Holland, PA
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 Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: Non Response to TROLL |
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To all forum users…
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND to this troll message. This troll’s posts have the same content and seasonally pop up like spring, fall, and the Flu Season.
Best way to avoid it is not to feed it and to ignore him. Let’s see if (for the first time), NOBODY WILL RESPOND to him. Even though in essence, this message is posted as a result of his post, I do not want to try to respond to him.
There is NOTHING that anyone on this list can say that will make sense to him. Ignore him and he will go away and then pop up again in another 4-5 months. The best way to fire back is NOT TO POST!
I’m counting on you all. Don’t break!
Jim!
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doctor Dave
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:41 AM
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Lightning-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 09/24/09
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Arion Staff
Forum Members
info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)
nick(at)flylightning.net (nick(at)flylightning.net)
info(at)vwwebdesign.com (info(at)vwwebdesign.com)
Congrats on new site.
Will provide my first glance edits of new website below.
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Clive J
Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 340
Location: UK
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Kayberg(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:30 am Post subject: Non Response to TROLL |
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While I had no plans to respond to AVN100, I want to respond to the non-response.
AVN is simply offering a critique of the website....which I dont care about. Websites are ALWAYS easy to criticise and hard to keep up. And of course he has some misconceptions about 51% which no amount of persuasion has changed. So I had no response planned.
But I wonder if I might be the next one boycotted? Or will it be you? One substance fueled babbling email and we might be banned!!! Or actually "shunned" , like the Amish do it.
I am on other listserves that have rather abusive posters. Oh well. They give it out and they get it back. We all make choices about responding....and we make choices about reading the response. I think some chose to just delete the email without reading it. For all I know, some will delete this one when they see it is from me!!!
But I am suggesting we simply ignore goofy content... and not necessarily shun the writer. And do it on a personal basis not group fiat.
doug koenigsberg
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Non Response to TROLL |
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Doug, this will be my only response to you.
You said:
“I am suggesting we simply ignore goofy content... and not necessarily shun the writer”
I believe that what I suggested that we do. I think the appeal of non response is similar to “ignore”.
I prefer to be able to read this list with constructive, and not abusive comments which is what this guy is typical of. He then draws both Nick and Pete out to defend themselves with some very non-respectful statements. Arion has come a long way and still needs to improve, but they are working hard at it, and it is evident in everything they do. Sure criticism is good if it is respectful and constructive. I actually agree with some of the points that he has made over time, just not the way he makes them. You have been surfing the lists long enough to understand what a troll is, and know that overall, they are not good for the health of the list.
If you want to just see messages peak, trolls can be good for that, but they destroy the well being of the list. I’m not “shunning” or “boycotting” the writer and I don’t appreciate you putting words in my mouth or misrepresenting my intentions. If he had posted his response in a way that was constructive and respectful, I’m sure everyone could have benefited somewhat from it. Pick the parts that you agree with and ignore the parts that you do not. It is the disrespectful tone that he directs towards the company and anyone that disagrees with him that I have a problem with.
As far as the other list servers that have these kind of guys posting abusive content, I try not to frequent or participate in them.
“Or will it be you?”
You don’t have to worry about that Doug. I will unsubscribe from the list and all Lightning activities so you don’t have to worry about me.
Jim!
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J Dupont
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Non Response to TROLL |
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Hello Jim,
I have been following this list for the last two years or so and your comments have always been helpful to me. In fact, your website and the newsletter are the two main reasons why I will get a lightning of my own within the next six months.
Your advise to avoid the troll is a very good one as he has often resolved to bring unjustified incendiary comments and personal attacks to discussions that did not go his way. Older members know that the guy is not easy to discuss with, your post is simply a warning to newer members of the list. It is better than letting someone waste time there without knowing.
I hope you stick around and that maybe sometime you may have the opportunity to build another stunning looking lightning.
Janin Dupont
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