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ncol(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: Door bulge

Here is an air to air pic + enlargement.



Speed was only about 110 knts max as the photo ship was a C182.



On the ground the door is perfectly flush all around, with no visible  

bulge at the leading edge, nor at the bottom.



In flight I have not noticed it moving out, but we have a thick lining  

material there. But the bulge is definitely visible in these pics. Our  

pins go right into the frame as per Vans instructions, but it serves  

as a reminder to ensure that the front pins have plenty of engagement.  

We also have the Vans door warning system and that hasn't illumintated  

in flight.



Nor is there any feeling of a draught at all, so the seals obviously  

do their job well.



Neil

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bkbrown(at)minetfiber.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: Door bulge

Makes one wonder if a spring loaded latch pin engaging through the sill

vertically at the center of the door would help.  Visualize a door latch,

that is flat on one side (to facilitate latching) and rounded on the other.

It would make getting out of the plane a "two-latch" affair, but may prevent

the in-air mating of a door to the horizontal stab...



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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: Door bulge

One RV-10 at OSH had just what you suggest. Owner had door come open and 

off before rotation, and was able to abort, and door did not hit 

anything to damage airframe. He was not about to have a second event, so 

put latch with clevis pins vertically through bottom of each door. I 

don't think I got a picture, but if I look, I can get the tail number.



Bob and Karen Brown wrote:

[quote] 

 

 Makes one wonder if a spring loaded latch pin engaging through the sill

 vertically at the center of the door would help.  Visualize a door latch,

 that is flat on one side (to facilitate latching) and rounded on the other.

 It would make getting out of the plane a "two-latch" affair, but may prevent

 the in-air mating of a door to the horizontal stab...

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:11 pm Post subject: Door bulge

Here it is.

Chris



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AirMike

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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: Door bulge = RV10 archilles heel

N220RV - the factory Continental equipped RV10 has a nice latch system. I do not know when it was installed but it is a spring loaded mid door latch

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velo

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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Door bulge

Is this Van's answer to their door design?  I think they should make this modification available to all builders as a standard build item.  Has anyone talked with Van's about this mod?

Rick

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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: Door bulge

Hi



Does anyone have a pix of the N220RV mid door latch? I'd like to see how

Van's handled this issue.



Cheers



Les



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