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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Appendix Z Reply with quote

Change 4 to Appendix Z has been published to correct some
errors. Figure Z-9 for Corvair Engines was developed in
cooperation with William Wynne and several of his customers.
That figure has been added to the suite of architecture
drawings.

http://aeroelectric.com/R12A/AppZ_12A4.pdf
Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Appendix Z Reply with quote

To 'lectric Bob:
On your Z-9 drawing, the ground/shield for the AEC 9024-10 LED LV Warn Annunciator light is connected to the +14 volt terminal. Is that correct?

Have you published the details regarding the AEC 9024 module various functions? I am particularly interested in the use as an aux battery management module.

Gordon Smith


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:12 am    Post subject: Appendix Z Reply with quote

At 06:31 PM 10/6/2009, you wrote:
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To 'lectric Bob:
On your Z-9 drawing, the ground/shield for the AEC 9024-10 LED LV
Warn Annunciator light is connected to the +14 volt terminal. Is that correct?

Hmmm . . . yeah, need to fix several errors on the drawing.
In the case you cited, the lead leads are reversed. The
miniature LED annunciator fixtures we're building use
shielded wire as a mechanical expedient for assembly
but the shield will not always be "ground".

http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Lighting/Mini-LED_Fixture.jpg

Quote:
Have you published the details regarding the AEC 9024 module various
functions? I am particularly interested in the use as an aux
battery management module.

Yes, see:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9024/9024_NOTES.pdf

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9024/9024_DIAGRAM.pdf

In the aux battery management mode, operation is
the same as for the now discontinued AEC9005

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9005/9005-701B.pdf
Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: Appendix Z Reply with quote

I was particularly interested in seeing Figure 2,3,4 & 5 referenced in this article: http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9024/9024_NOTES.pdf. Perhaps these figures have not yet been posted to this article?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Appendix Z Reply with quote

At 02:25 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote:
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<gordonrsmith921(at)yahoo.com>

I was particularly interested in seeing Figure 2,3,4 & 5
referenced in this article:

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9024/9024_NOTES.pdf.

Perhaps these figures have not yet been posted to this article?

The instructions/installation manual for the 9024 series
products hasn't been written yet. The "notes" section
is a preliminary look at performance while Z-9 is
a preliminary look at applications to be described
in the figures you asked about. Z-9 shows the 9024
installed as Contactor Power Management, Low Voltage
Warning, and Over Voltage Protection.

The Aux Battery Management application is not shown
in Z-9 but if one wanted to add a small battery for
the purpose of supporting only the ignition system,
the forth application could be shown as well. If fact,
Figure Z-9 may be part of the finished instructions
document just to give a real-life set of examples
about how the critter can be used.

The documents published are preliminary and will be
replaced by one written and illustrated in the style
of the earlier Aux Battery Management module
described here . . .

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9005/9005-701B.pdf

The single device will perform any of the four
functions which are installer selected by clipping
out program selection jumpers.
Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Appendix Z Reply with quote

So Bob I'm a little confused and late to follow this thread so I apologize if it's been covered. I'm interested in the AUX batt managment/LOW voltage module but dont see it on your site. I gather it's in develorment, when do you expect it will be available?
Thanks, Tim Andres



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At 02:25 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote:
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I was particularly interested in seeing Figure 2,3,4 & 5
referenced in this article:

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9024/9024_NOTES.pdf.

Perhaps these figures have not yet been posted to this article?

The instructions/installation manual for the 9024 series
products hasn't been written yet. The "notes" section
is a preliminary look at performance while Z-9 is
a preliminary look at applications to be described
in the figures you asked about. Z-9 shows the 9024
installed as Contactor Power Management, Low Voltage
Warning, and Over Voltage Protection.

The Aux Battery Management application is not shown
in Z-9 but if one wanted to add a small battery for
the purpose of supporting only the ignition system,
the forth application could be shown as well. If fact,
Figure Z-9 may be part of the finished instructions
document just to give a real-life set of examples
about how the critter can be used.

The documents published are preliminary and will be
replaced by one written and illustrated in the style
  of the earlier Aux Battery Management module
described here . . .

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9005/9005-701B.pdf

The single device will perform any of the four
functions which are installer selected by clipping
out program selection jumpers.
Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Appendix Z Reply with quote

At 12:51 PM 10/9/2009, you wrote:
Quote:
So Bob I'm a little confused and late to follow this thread so I
apologize if it's been covered. I'm interested in the AUX batt
managment/LOW voltage module but dont see it on your site. I gather
it's in develorment, when do you expect it will be available?

Sorry, I thought you were asking about
the 9024, 4-function module that IS under
development and WILL offer those functions
among others.

The original 9005 ABMM has been discontinued
and converted to a DIY project. ECB layout
files for EXPRESS PCB along with an assembly
guide has been posted to.

http://www.aeroelectric.com/DIY/LV_Warn_Fab_and_Install.pdf

http://www.aeroelectric.com/DIY/9005-301-1C_Fab.pcb


Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Appendix Z Reply with quote

Thanks Bob, do you have a rough idea when it will be available? I'm hoping
to start the electrical this spring.
Tim

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Appendix Z Reply with quote

At 10:39 PM 10/16/2009, you wrote:
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Thanks Bob, do you have a rough idea when it will be available? I'm hoping
to start the electrical this spring.
Tim

Certainly this winter. I'm still moving, building benches
and shelves, sorting keep-it/sell-it stuff between two
households and sorta remodeling the Wichita house as
I go. Want to get my kids moved into it before Thanksgiving.

We're playing musical houses right now!
Bob . . .

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