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marenyi(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: Full Enclosure

I am wondering how you go about putting a full enclosure on a firestar II and what benefits does it have, as well as what downsides are there. If you have a jump seat can you still get into it with a full enclosure. Is there a place to buy the enclosures?

  

Thanks everyone. I hope to be a proud Kolb owner very soon (pending answers to these questions)



Eric M.

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dalewhelan

Joined: 11 Nov 2008
Posts: 105
Location: USA ARIZONA fountain hills

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Full Enclosure

Yes on the getting in

Your passenger will be warmer

you would build the windows

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zeprep251(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: Full Enclosure

Eric,

 The full enclosure is made of fabric and clear vinyl I think.Got mine from Kolb .It velcro's on.With a little foam gasket between the wing and upper windshield support it closes up pretty good.Bt don't try to go fast,it pressures up on the inside and I had it blow loose on the right side and tail back far enough that the prop put a slice in the vinyl window before I could yank it back into the rear seat.

  G.Aman

 

   

 

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WillUribe(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: Full Enclosure

Hi Eric,

 Here some pictures of the full enclosure installed on my FireStar  II. The rear clear cover is not installed completely so you can  see it's not stretched.  It protects you from the elements and keeps you  warmer in the winter. The down side is your adding more weight, need to undo the  Velcro on of the rear cover to pull start the engine and slows you down a  little.  Yes you can still shoe horn a grown up in the jump  seat.  I ordered my enclosure kit from Kolb. I fly with the full enclosure  in the winter and remove the rear cover in the summer.

  

  

 

 

  

 Hope this helps,

 Will Uribe

 El Paso, TX

 FireStar II N4GU

 Will's  FireStar 

 Kolb  FireStar II 

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		        In a message dated 10/5/2009 9:06:30 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,    marenyi(at)gmail.com writes:

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		  I am      wondering how you go about putting a full enclosure on a firestar II and      what benefits does it have, as well as what downsides are there. If you have      a jump seat can you still get into it with a full enclosure. Is there a      place to buy the enclosures?



Thanks everyone. I hope to be a proud      Kolb owner very soon (pending answers to these questions)



Eric M.

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marenyi(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject: Full Enclosure

Thanks Will, that does help a lot!



Do you know if there is a cabin heater made for the enclosure? I would imagine it wouldnt be too hard to fashion one. I was talking to another guy today who said the enclosure acts almost like a greenhouse and keeps you pretty warm in the winter, but I never asked him about the heater.

  

Thanks

Eric



On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM,  <WillUribe(at)aol.com (WillUribe(at)aol.com)> wrote:

[quote]     Hi Eric,

 Here some pictures of the full enclosure installed on my FireStar  II. The rear clear cover is not installed completely so you can  see it's not stretched.  It protects you from the elements and keeps you  warmer in the winter. The down side is your adding more weight, need to undo the  Velcro on of the rear cover to pull start the engine and slows you down a  little.  Yes you can still shoe horn a grown up in the jump  seat.  I ordered my enclosure kit from Kolb. I fly with the full enclosure  in the winter and remove the rear cover in the summer.

  

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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: Full Enclosure

Eric,

    I bought my full enclosure from Kolb, and it  included the fabric and clear vinyl as well as a full sheet of Lexan, a hoop for  the top of the enclosure, two side rods for the back of the Lexan and an  aluminum rod for the center of the windshield.

  

    While I used it for years and even  incorporated a heater for really cold weather. I did not feel that it was as  suitable as it could have been, and my enclosure has morphed to this design. I  also found that the vinyl part that fully enclosed the rear of the cockpit cut  my speed down by 5 to 7 MPH. I also found that there was not much noticeable  difference in temp. as far comfort was concerned. I no longer use the vinyl  part, a silk scarf and a rag wool hat over my headset, a Chili Vest with a pair  of gloves and I am good down to 24 degrees so far. Not real interested in  experimenting further in that direction.

 Larry C, Oregon Firestar II

  

  

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WillUribe(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject: Full Enclosure

Eric, 

  I never needed a heater but I know of one who installed  one.  Talk to John H about the Chilly vest or look it up in the  archives.

 

 Hope this helps

 Will Uribe

 El Paso, TX

 FireStar II N4GU



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      In a message dated 10/5/2009 6:50:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,    marenyi(at)gmail.com writes:

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		  Thanks      Will, that does help a lot!



Do you know if there is a cabin heater      made for the enclosure? I would imagine it wouldnt be too hard to fashion      one. I was talking to another guy today who said the enclosure acts almost      like a greenhouse and keeps you pretty warm in the winter, but I never asked      him about the heater.



Thanks

Eric



     On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM, <WillUribe(at)aol.com (WillUribe(at)aol.com)> wrote:

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		                Hi Eric,

       Here some pictures of the full enclosure installed on my FireStar        II. The rear clear cover is not installed completely so you        can see it's not stretched.  It protects you from the elements and        keeps you warmer in the winter. The down side is your adding more weight,        need to undo the Velcro on of the rear cover to pull start the engine and        slows you down a little.  Yes you can still shoe horn a        grown up in the jump seat.  I ordered my enclosure kit from Kolb. I        fly with the full enclosure in the winter and remove the rear cover in the        summer.

       

 







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marenyi(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: Full Enclosure

Larry, you said "I did not feel that it was as  suitable as it could have been, and my enclosure has morphed to this design" but I dont follow you as to what design you have morphed to? did you send a picture that I didn't get?



Eric



  On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com (lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com)> wrote:

[quote]         Eric,

    I bought my full enclosure from Kolb, and it  included the fabric and clear vinyl as well as a full sheet of Lexan, a hoop for  the top of the enclosure, two side rods for the back of the Lexan and an  aluminum rod for the center of the windshield.

  

    While I used it for years and even  incorporated a heater for really cold weather. I did not feel that it was as  suitable as it could have been, and my enclosure has morphed to this design. I  also found that the vinyl part that fully enclosed the rear of the cockpit cut  my speed down by 5 to 7 MPH. I also found that there was not much noticeable  difference in temp. as far comfort was concerned. I no longer use the vinyl  part, a silk scarf and a rag wool hat over my headset, a Chili Vest with a pair  of gloves and I am good down to 24 degrees so far. Not real interested in  experimenting further in that direction.

 Larry C, Oregon Firestar II

  

  

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marenyi(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: Full Enclosure

Larry, Nevermind, it took my email a while to show them, I see what you meant now!



Thanks!! Eric



On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Eric Marenyi <marenyi(at)gmail.com (marenyi(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

  [quote]Larry, you said "I did not feel that it was as  suitable as it could have been, and my enclosure has morphed to this design" but I dont follow you as to what design you have morphed to? did you send a picture that I didn't get?



  Eric

 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com (lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com)> wrote:

[quote]          Eric,

    I bought my full enclosure from Kolb, and it  included the fabric and clear vinyl as well as a full sheet of Lexan, a hoop for  the top of the enclosure, two side rods for the back of the Lexan and an  aluminum rod for the center of the windshield.

  

    While I used it for years and even  incorporated a heater for really cold weather. I did not feel that it was as  suitable as it could have been, and my enclosure has morphed to this design. I  also found that the vinyl part that fully enclosed the rear of the cockpit cut  my speed down by 5 to 7 MPH. I also found that there was not much noticeable  difference in temp. as far comfort was concerned. I no longer use the vinyl  part, a silk scarf and a rag wool hat over my headset, a Chili Vest with a pair  of gloves and I am good down to 24 degrees so far. Not real interested in  experimenting further in that direction.

 Larry C, Oregon Firestar II

  

  

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ulflyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:14 am Post subject: Full Enclosure

Anyone got a photo of the enclosure to see what it looks like installed.

 jerb



 At 04:37 PM 10/5/2009, you wrote:

 [quote]Eric,

 The full enclosure is made of fabric and clear vinyl I think.Got mine from Kolb .It velcro's on.With a little foam gasket between the wing and upper windshield support it closes up pretty good.Bt don't try to go fast,it pressures up on the inside and I had it blow loose on the right side and tail back far enough that the prop put a slice in the vinyl window before I could yank it back into the rear seat.

  G.Aman



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