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WurlyBird
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Location: North Pole, Alaska
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 Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: Larger Elevator |
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I have a laundry list of projects that involve my KF3 but aside from the new fuel lines (that will be another post all together) I am planning on starting with the larger elevator that McB offers. Does anyone have this elevator on a Mod 4 or earlier? I am looking for a little input on whether it makes a vast improvement or not. Thanks guys.
James
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: Larger Elevator |
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I have the larger elevator on my model IV.
Clint
[quote] Subject: Larger Elevator
From: james.t.trizzino(at)us.army.mil
Date: Fri C 9 Oct 2009 18:50:17 -0700
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "WurlyBird" <james.t.trizzino(at)us.army.mil>
I have a laundry list of projects that involve my KF3 but aside from the new fuel lines (that will be another post all together) I am planning on starting with the larger elevator that McB offers. Does anyone have this elevator on a Mod 4 or earlier? I am looking for a little input on whether it makes a vast improvement or not. Thanks guys.
James
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Kitfox 3 / 582 / GSC prop
The ink is still drying on my new certificate
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Guy Buchanan
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
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Location: Ramona, CA
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: Larger Elevator |
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At 06:50 PM 10/9/2009, you wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone have this elevator on a Mod 4 or earlier? I am looking
for a little input on whether it makes a vast improvement or not.
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Have you already gap-sealed?
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting
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WurlyBird
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Location: North Pole, Alaska
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Larger Elevator |
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Thanks for the reply Clint. . . .
So, any input on how it works? 
Guy, I have not sealed the gap although I have read a little about it. A quick search has not yet turned up any stories about it or how to do it. Have you done it? Does it make a big enough difference as to not need the larger elevator? What was your method?
As always, thanks for the help.
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Guy Buchanan
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: Larger Elevator |
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At 08:44 PM 10/11/2009, you wrote:
| Quote: | Guy, I have not sealed the gap although I have read a little about
it. A quick search has not yet turned up any stories about it or
how to do it. Have you done it? Does it make a big enough
difference as to not need the larger elevator? What was your method?
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James,
It's been a while, but to quantify: before I gap sealed I
could only get the tail wheel to about 1' of altitude when 3-pointing
with full aft stick and full flaps. After I gap sealed I was able to
easily get the tailwheel on the ground first. It was a very
noticeable difference. I was not able to notice any difference in flight.
I gap sealed using heavy duty clear packing tape. I do the
method where you take two 1 1/2" wide pieces, reversing one onto the
other so there's only about 1/2" of sticky stuff on both edges, and
then stick one edge to the top of the elevator and one to the bottom
of the horizontal, crossing the gap. I've had to replace them twice
in three-four years and 460 hours. It takes about an hour now that I
know how. If you're careful about keeping finger prints and bugs and
fuzz off it looks pretty good, too.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting
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Dick Maddux
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Posts: 516
Location: Milton, Fl
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:43 am Post subject: Larger Elevator |
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James,
I agree with Guy,the gap seals do make a big difference with the elevator . I had similar results with better elevator control when I applied the gap seals. I used to use the gap sealing method that Guy uses but the tape would start to peel after exposure to this hot Fl sun and I have gone thru three different types. I am now using and X pattern with each leg of the X about an inch long. The two pieces of tape are stuck together in the middle(sticky side to sticky side oriented top to bottom at the elevator hinge gap) This method only fills the gap and has no to little overlap on the elevator surface thus no gooey mess from the tape adhesive. One of the members on this forum mentioned this method and it has worked very well for me.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Milton,Fl
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:57 am Post subject: Larger Elevator |
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I just lay 2" wide racer's tape (orange, of course) across the gap
with the elevator in the down position....then I write the date on
it. Some of the tape applied in Oct of 2008 is needing replacement.
Adhesive removal is pretty easy with mineral spirits (paint thinner).
I found that in my model airplane "career" that doing the "X"
pattern, or the over/under method, that stuff could catch in the "V"
and I didn't like that.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying
On Oct 12, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Catz631(at)aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | James,
I agree with Guy,the gap seals do make a big difference with the
elevator . I had similar results with better elevator control when
I applied the gap seals. I used to use the gap sealing method that
Guy uses but the tape would start to peel after exposure to this
hot Fl sun and I have gone thru three different types. I am now
using and X pattern with each leg of the X about an inch long. The
two pieces of tape are stuck together in the middle(sticky side to
sticky side oriented top to bottom at the elevator hinge gap) This
method only fills the gap and has no to little overlap on the
elevator surface thus no gooey mess from the tape adhesive. One of
the members on this forum mentioned this method and it has worked
very well for me.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Milton,Fl
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