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rickofudall



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:10 am    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

Also called a “Crows-foot” wrench if ordering from other places.

Nick


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Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.


Rick Girard

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:59 am    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

The correct size is 7/16" C not 13 mm.
 
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Also called a “Crows-foot” wrench if ordering from other places.
 
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Mike C all C a little late to help with your engine C but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10 C 13 C 15 C and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey C $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16 C500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well. The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the long run to do the job right the first time.

Rick Girard

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500


Also called a “Crows-foot” wrench if ordering from other places.
 
Nick
 

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Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

The question than begs what is the project?

nick


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Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well. The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the long run to do the job right the first time.


Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih(at)hotmail.com (naftalih(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.


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To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: cylinder nuts
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500

Also called a “Crows-foot” wrench if ordering from other places.

Nick


From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
To: jabiruengine-list
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts


Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.


Rick Girard


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

In this case it's loosening and torqueing cylinder, or in my case, head bolts. 

Rick

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The question than begs what is the project?
 
nick
 

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Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well. The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the long run to do the job right the first time.
 


Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih(at)hotmail.com (naftalih(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.
 

From: info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: cylinder nuts
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500
 
Also called a “Crows-foot” wrench if ordering from other places.
 
Nick
 

From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
To: jabiruengine-list
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts

 
Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

Meant what aircraft are you building?

nick


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In this case it's loosening and torqueing cylinder, or in my case, head bolts.


Rick
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, flylightning <info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)> wrote:
The question than begs what is the project?

nick


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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM

To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: cylinder nuts


Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well. The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the long run to do the job right the first time.



Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih(at)hotmail.com (naftalih(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.


From: info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: cylinder nuts
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500

Also called a “Crows-foot” wrench if ordering from other places.

Nick


From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
To: jabiruengine-list
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts


Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.


Rick Girard


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

Oh, I have a Kolb Mk III that desperately wants a 2200. Smile

Rick

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM, flylightning <info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)> wrote:
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Meant what aircraft are you building?
 
nick
 

From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
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In this case it's loosening and torqueing cylinder, or in my case, head bolts. 
 



Rick

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, flylightning <info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)> wrote:

The question than begs what is the project?
 
nick
 

From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM

To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: cylinder nuts

 
Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well. The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the long run to do the job right the first time.
 


Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih(at)hotmail.com (naftalih(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.
 

From: info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: cylinder nuts
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500
 
Also called a “Crows-foot” wrench if ordering from other places.
 
Nick
 

From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
To: jabiruengine-list
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts

 
Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.
 

Rick Girard


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

Ok, it’s a good engine.

nick


From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:59 PM
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Oh, I have a Kolb Mk III that desperately wants a 2200. Smile


Rick
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM, flylightning <info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)> wrote:
Meant what aircraft are you building?

nick


From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:16 PM

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In this case it's loosening and torqueing cylinder, or in my case, head bolts.




Rick
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, flylightning <info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)> wrote:


The question than begs what is the project?

nick


From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM

To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: cylinder nuts


Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well. The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the long run to do the job right the first time.



Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih(at)hotmail.com (naftalih(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.


From: info(at)flylightning.net (info(at)flylightning.net)
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: cylinder nuts
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500

Also called a “Crows-foot” wrench if ordering from other places.

Nick


From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
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Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts


Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.


Rick Girard


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: cylinder nuts Reply with quote

Hey, Rick... and others. I will throw a link out there to a tool I made that works. Thanks to another fellow on this list!

Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Http://www.kansasflying.com


From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
To: jabiruengine-list <jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:09:35 AM
Subject: cylinder nuts

Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the torque wrench.

Rick Girard

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