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cj.tremblay(at)videotron.
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: Countersunk / domed bending rivet in Chris H. aircraft desig

Hi dear Zenith Builders,



 



I build a CH640 from plan, and wondering with some friends, if the fact to

use countersunk rivets, with a domed head rivet gun, could improve rivet

resilience or adding stress to rivets, when doing this kind of "counter

bending" former process. The other question that I have, is why Chris H.

don't design the aircraft with already existing Avex domed rivet?



 



Note: The College Design courses of Christ H., in his 2 article dedicated to

rivets, don't give the background reasons for this design.  Somebody know

the reasons behind this specific utilization of countersunk rivets? Or is

this something frequent in the aircraft industry?



 



Thanks a lot for explanation.



 



 



http://www.zodiac640.com/



 



Christian Tremblay



Montreal, QC, Canada

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Jari Kaija

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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:20 am Post subject: Countersunk / domed bending rivet in Chris H. aircraft desig

 	  Quote: 	
		   The other question that I have, is why Chris H.

 don't design the aircraft with already existing Avex domed rivet?


	


I'm more than happy, that Chris didn't. I love to build plane,

what is simple enough for everyone and do not require any

stupid (baby face style) working methods. Reasons are many.



If you want plane, what has "baby face" skin, you should

consider other planes or buy (factory made) one.



http://www.jarikaija.com

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Jari Kaija

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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: Countersunk / domed bending rivet in Chris H. aircraft desig

 	  Quote: 	
		   I build a CH640 from plan, and wondering with some friends, if the fact to

 use countersunk rivets, with a domed head rivet gun, could improve rivet

 resilience or adding stress to rivets, when doing this kind of "counter

 bending" former process. The other question that I have, is why Chris H.

 don't design the aircraft with already existing Avex domed rivet?


	


OOOPS! I'm really sorry. I'm was hurry, when I read your message

first time and countersunk/domed messed with my brain, as english is

not my natural language. Yes, you are right about that rivet question.

I'm using domed rivet with my ch701, but not from "Avdel". I think,

and there was a topic about this thing earlier too, that when using

countersunk rivets, rivet itself fills hole much better than domed will.

Reforming rivet from counters. to domed won't hurt rivet so much

either. Just think, what rivet's "pipe"-part have to endure. Very much

more forming than rivet's head. I'm really sorry that I confused these

rivets, since I thought, that you want to build plane with totally smooth

surface!

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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: Countersunk / domed bending rivet in Chris H. aircraft desig

Jari-

    Don't apologize!!! The only French I know is "Merde" when I drill into 

my finger!

                                                            Bill

                do not, I repeat, do not archive

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