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billdube(at)killacycle.co
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

I am considering producing state-of-the art, very lightweight, ultra 

long life, starting batteries for experimental aircraft. They won't 

be cheap to make, however. I'd like to get some feedback as to the 

market for these before I put a big effort into this.



	Here are the specs:



14 volts

480 cranking amps

8.8 amp-hours

2.7 pounds (Yes, really just 2.7 pounds.)

10 year warrantee (prorated)

Completely sealed battery

Safer than lead acid or NiCad

Built-in electronic monitoring system warns of over-voltage, 

under-voltage, over heating, or internal battery fault.



	That is all the good news. The downside is that they will cost about 

$475. I'm not sure how many folks would want a 10 year battery (at 

least) that weighs about 1/3 as much as an "ordinary" battery, but 

costs four times as much.



	The specs above are real. I have personally tested these batteries 

and they do, indeed, perform this well, so that is not an issue. I 

know I can make these. I'm going to make one for myself. The question 

is, will folks buy them if I more of them?



	Let me know if you think you would be interested in such a high-tech 

battery at this cost.



	Bill Dube'

3edcft6(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

I find your claims a bit hard to believe.  The only battery chemistry, I 

know of, that can put that many watt hours in that light of a package 

are lithium polymer.  The price sounds about right for a lithium polymer 

battery that size too.  I don't know for sure if you can pull that many 

amps from a lithium polymer battery, but I do know they are no where 

near as safe as SLA or NiCads.  There is no way I would put that big of 

a lithium polymer battery in a plane I am flying in.  I have seen way 

too many electric model airplanes blown up or burned down to trust a 

lithium polymer in a real plane.  If your not talking about lithium 

polymer, what is the battery chemistry?  Your not going to keep it a 

secret for long anyway.



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		  	I am considering producing state-of-the art, very lightweight, ultra 

long life, starting batteries for experimental aircraft. They won't 

be cheap to make, however. I'd like to get some feedback as to the 

market for these before I put a big effort into this.



	Here are the specs:



14 volts

480 cranking amps

8.8 amp-hours

2.7 pounds (Yes, really just 2.7 pounds.)

10 year warrantee (prorated)

Completely sealed battery

Safer than lead acid or NiCad

  




	


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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

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		   14 volts

 480 cranking amps

 8.8 amp-hours

 2.7 pounds (Yes, really just 2.7 pounds.)

 10 year warrantee (prorated)

 Completely sealed battery

 Safer than lead acid or NiCad

 Built-in electronic monitoring system warns of over-voltage, 

 under-voltage, over heating, or internal battery fault.


	


Bill,



You didn't mention size or shape.  I'm building an auto

conversion, so for me the main issues are amp-hours,

size, weight, and degradation.  Not sure if degradation

is the right term, but what I mean is - will the battery

still have 8.8 amp-hours in 2 years when I need it?

In 7 years?



Also, a way to know exactly how much juice is left in

the battery at any particular moment would be great

for my application.  It's as important as a fuel gauge

when the alternator fails.



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ktlkrn(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Hi Bill,



Sounds like Lithium Ion or Polymer to me. If it is, I would have extreme concerns as to what the safety measures would be insure no fire or explosion.



Being heavy into RC with several LiPo powered electrics and helicopters, I can tell you these batteries are nowhere near safe. I only charge these batteries when I'm monitoring them. Additionally, I charge them in a deal called a "battery bunker" which is like a small SWAT team containment can in the event of over heating and/or explosion.



I have had 2 friends have their vechicles burn to the ground while charging these batteries. They cannot handle ANY over charging at all. One exploded when only being charged at .5 its rated amperage. Normal charge is 1:1.



I commend your ingenuity but this may be a tough sell. Maybe after you put one in your plane and fly it a few hundred hours they may gain some acceptance. In the mean time $475 equates to 7 Odyssey batteries.



Darwin N. Barrie

Chandler AZ

RV-7 N717EE

chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.c
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Bill,    I've got several aircraft that I would put them in " if "  they were SAFE and you could keep the price under $500.   I echo others' concern on the technology being safe.

   

  Chuck



"BillDube(at)killacycle.com" <billdube(at)killacycle.com> wrote:

  



I am considering producing state-of-the art, very lightweight, ultra 

long life, starting batteries for experimental aircraft. They won't 

be cheap to make, however. I'd like to get some feedback as to the 

market for these before I put a big effort into this.



Here are the specs:



14 volts

480 cranking amps

8.8 amp-hours

2.7 pounds (Yes, really just 2.7 pounds.)

10 year warrantee (prorated)

Completely sealed battery

Safer than lead acid or NiCad

Built-in electronic monitoring system warns of over-voltage, 

under-voltage, over heating, or internal battery fault.



That is all the good news. The downside is that they will cost about 

$475. I'm not sure how many folks would want a 10 year battery (at 

least) that weighs about 1/3 as much as an "ordinary" battery, but 

costs four times as much.



The specs above are real. I have personally tested these batteries 

and they do, indeed, perform this well, so that is not an issue. I 

know I can make these. I'm going to make one for myself. The question 

is, will folks buy them if I more of them?



Let me know if you think you would be interested in such a high-tech 

battery at this cost.



Bill Dube'



		

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gert.v(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Hmm yes, there is a video clip at  

http://www.helihobby.com/videos/*LithiumBattery*.*wmv*   showing the 

effects of an overcharged Lithium Ion battery. Now i believe this 

battery was intentionally overcharged, but.... the pyro at the end is 

still impressive.



As a forensics person i have seen my share of Li-Ion batteries which 

caused fire or harm, plenty recalls for especially aftermarket camera 

and cellphone batteries going around.



Darwin N. Barrie wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hi Bill,



 Sounds like Lithium Ion or Polymer to me. If it is, I would have extreme concerns as to what the safety measures would be insure no fire or explosion.



 Being heavy into RC with several LiPo powered electrics and helicopters, I can tell you these batteries are nowhere near safe. I only charge these batteries when I'm monitoring them. Additionally, I charge them in a deal called a "battery bunker" which is like a small SWAT team containment can in the event of over heating and/or explosion.



 I have had 2 friends have their vechicles burn to the ground while charging these batteries. They cannot handle ANY over charging at all. One exploded when only being charged at .5 its rated amperage. Normal charge is 1:1.



 I commend your ingenuity but this may be a tough sell. Maybe after you put one in your plane and fly it a few hundred hours they may gain some acceptance. In the mean time $475 equates to 7 Odyssey batteries.



 Darwin N. Barrie

 Chandler AZ

 RV-7 N717EE

  

  

  





   


	


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gert.v(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Hmmm somehow asterixes sneaked in the correct URL is  

http://www.helihobby.com/videos/LithiumBattery.wmv



Darwin N. Barrie wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hi Bill,



 Sounds like Lithium Ion or Polymer to me. If it is, I would have extreme concerns as to what the safety measures would be insure no fire or explosion.



 Being heavy into RC with several LiPo powered electrics and helicopters, I can tell you these batteries are nowhere near safe. I only charge these batteries when I'm monitoring them. Additionally, I charge them in a deal called a "battery bunker" which is like a small SWAT team containment can in the event of over heating and/or explosion.



 I have had 2 friends have their vechicles burn to the ground while charging these batteries. They cannot handle ANY over charging at all. One exploded when only being charged at .5 its rated amperage. Normal charge is 1:1.



 I commend your ingenuity but this may be a tough sell. Maybe after you put one in your plane and fly it a few hundred hours they may gain some acceptance. In the mean time $475 equates to 7 Odyssey batteries.



 Darwin N. Barrie

 Chandler AZ

 RV-7 N717EE

  

  

  





   


	


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billdube(at)killacycle.co
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: World's best airplane battery

At 08:36 AM 4/9/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Hi Bill,



Sounds like Lithium Ion or Polymer to me. If it is, I would have 

extreme concerns as to what the safety measures would be insure no 

fire or explosion.


	


         Safety is not an issue. That is why they are so expensive.



         The specs are real. I have personally tested them myself.



         Would you pay $475 for such a battery?



Bill Dube'

billdube(at)killacycle.co
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: World's best airplane battery

At 01:17 AM 4/9/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 > 14 volts

 > 480 cranking amps

 > 8.8 amp-hours

 > 2.7 pounds (Yes, really just 2.7 pounds.)

 > 10 year warrantee (prorated)

 > Completely sealed battery

 > Safer than lead acid or NiCad

 > Built-in electronic monitoring system warns of over-voltage,

 > under-voltage, over heating, or internal battery fault.

Bill,

You didn't mention size or shape.  I'm building an auto

conversion, so for me the main issues are amp-hours,

size, weight, and degradation.  Not sure if degradation

is the right term, but what I mean is - will the battery

still have 8.8 amp-hours in 2 years when I need it?

In 7 years?

 	  Quote: 	
		  Also, a way to know exactly how much juice is left in

the battery at any particular moment would be great

for my application.  It's as important as a fuel gauge

when the alternator fails.

         The internal electronics will tell you when you are near the 

end of the capacity. You could test the capacity using that feature 

during your annual, for example, to track the battery performance.

         If you want a actual battery fuel gauge, it would be extra. 

It isn't hard to do, but it requires a lot more electronic hardware. 

You can buy one commercially for your present battery if you want to. 

They are called a Link-10. Boats, RVs (the other kind), fork lifts, 

and electric cars use them.

http://www.energyoutfitters.com/default.htm?http://www.energyoutfitters.com/products/p_m_electronics/xantrex_link10.shtm

         They are pricey, but work very well. They are very 

lightweight. I plan to install one in my RV (since I have an 

electronic ignition and EFI.)

         Bill Dube'

billdube(at)killacycle.co
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: World's best airplane battery

At 11:26 PM 4/8/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



I find your claims a bit hard to believe.


	


Here's what I do for my other hobby:



http://www.killacycle.com



         These batteries are the latest and best available. I have 

been working directly with the manufacturer.



         Forget everything you know about batteries. For the moment, 

consider these are made of "Krell metal".  



<http://www.umich.edu/~umfandsf/film/promise/forbidden-krell-tech.html>



         The specs are a fact. I'm just interested in whether folks 

would be willing to pay $475 for such a battery.



         Bill Dube'



 	  Quote: 	
		    The only battery chemistry, I

know of, that can put that many watt hours in that light of a package

are lithium polymer.  The price sounds about right for a lithium polymer

battery that size too.  I don't know for sure if you can pull that many

amps from a lithium polymer battery, but I do know they are no where

near as safe as SLA or NiCads.

3edcft6(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:01 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

BillDube(at)killacycle.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  >

>

>I find your claims a bit hard to believe.

>    

>

Here's what I do for my other hobby:

http://www.killacycle.com

         These batteries are the latest and best available. I have 

been working directly with the manufacturer.

         Forget everything you know about batteries. For the moment, 

consider these are made of "Krell metal".  

<http://www.umich.edu/~umfandsf/film/promise/forbidden-krell-tech.html>

         The specs are a fact. I'm just interested in whether folks 

would be willing to pay $475 for such a battery.

If such a battery does really exist I am sure people would pay for it.  

Especially those in the electric RC plane hobby.  However you have not 

yet convinced me that a battery that meets all the criteria in your OP 

exists.  The links above mention nothing about such a battery, at least 

if they don't I can't find it.  I don't mean any disrespect, but I am 

not going to take the word of someone on a message board about something 

with out any evidence to back it up.  I also don't think you will get a 

lot of response to your query until proof that such a battery does exist 

and can do what you say. 

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billdube(at)killacycle.co
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Forget all you knew about batteries. These are not what you are familiar with.

They meet the specs and are safe.

Would you pay $475 for such a battery?

Bill Dube'

At 10:07 AM 4/9/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

Hmmm somehow asterixes sneaked in the correct URL is

http://www.helihobby.com/videos/LithiumBattery.wmv

Darwin N. Barrie wrote:

 > 

 >

 > Hi Bill,

 >

 > Sounds like Lithium Ion or Polymer to me. If it is, I would have 

 extreme concerns as to what the safety measures would be insure no 

 fire or explosion.

 >

 > Being heavy into RC with several LiPo powered electrics and 

 helicopters, I can tell you these batteries are nowhere near safe. 

 I only charge these batteries when I'm monitoring them. 

 Additionally, I charge them in a deal called a "battery bunker" 

 which is like a small SWAT team containment can in the event of 

 over heating and/or explosion.

 >

 > I have had 2 friends have their vechicles burn to the ground 

 while charging these batteries. They cannot handle ANY over 

 charging at all. One exploded when only being charged at .5 its 

 rated amperage. Normal charge is 1:1.

 >

 > I commend your ingenuity but this may be a tough sell. Maybe 

 after you put one in your plane and fly it a few hundred hours they 

 may gain some acceptance. In the mean time $475 equates to 7 Odyssey batteries.

 >

 > Darwin N. Barrie

 > Chandler AZ

 > RV-7 N717EE

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

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billdube(at)killacycle.co
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

So, I guess you won't be my first customer. 

         I have quite a few of these earmarked for my electric drag bike.

http://www.KillaCycle.com

         If all goes well, they will be in the bike and we'll be at 

Route 66 drag strip in Joliet on May 13th. I'll keep the list posted 

on this. You will know the brand when the bike appears at the track. 

         Ultra-high-power state-of-the-art batteries is what electric 

drag racing is all about. I have my finger on the pulse of battery 

technology, naturally. I test a lot of batteries to see if they 

really meet the manufacturer's specifications and put out the power 

that I need to race the bike. I torture them on the bench to see just 

how far I can push them on the track.

         In addition to being ideal for my drag bike, these 

particular batteries are also very well suited for aircraft. This is 

because they are as safe, or safer, than lead-acid batteries. They 

cost a fortune, however. Cost is not an issue for setting world 

records, but matters to some folks that are building airplanes. It 

matters not to other folks building airplanes. No doubt, you will see 

these exact batteries in military aircraft in the next year or so. 

Commercial aircraft will have them a few years later.

         I'm not trying to sell these to you now, so there is no need 

to prove that they meet specs now. I'm just trying to find out how 

many folks will pay $475 for a very high-performance, safe, 

lightweight battery for their homebuilt airplane.

         If it does everything I say it does, would you pay $475 for 

one? Yes or no? I'm not requesting a commitment or any money. Just 

tell me if you would honestly consider buying one if I prove they 

really are as good as I say they are.

Bill Dube'

At 02:56 PM 4/9/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

BillDube(at)killacycle.com wrote:

 >>

 >>

 >>I find your claims a bit hard to believe.

 	  Quote: 	
		   >>

 >>

 >

 >Here's what I do for my other hobby:

 >

 >http://www.killacycle.com

 >

 >         These batteries are the latest and best available. I have

 >been working directly with the manufacturer.

 >

 >         Forget everything you know about batteries. For the moment,

 >consider these are made of "Krell metal".  

 >

 ><http://www.umich.edu/~umfandsf/film/promise/forbidden-krell-tech.html>

 >

 >         The specs are a fact. I'm just interested in whether folks

 >would be willing to pay $475 for such a battery.

 >

 >

If such a battery does really exist I am sure people would pay for it.

Especially those in the electric RC plane hobby.  However you have not

yet convinced me that a battery that meets all the criteria in your OP

exists.  The links above mention nothing about such a battery, at least

if they don't I can't find it.  I don't mean any disrespect, but I am

not going to take the word of someone on a message board about something

with out any evidence to back it up.  I also don't think you will get a

lot of response to your query until proof that such a battery does exist

and can do what you say.

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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

BillDube(at)killacycle.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		            If it does everything I say it does, would you pay $475 for 

 one? Yes or no? I'm not requesting a commitment or any money. Just 

 tell me if you would honestly consider buying one if I prove they 

 really are as good as I say they are.


	


No.



Sam Buchanan

chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.c
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Bill,   I might not be your first customer; but if the specs you list are accurate and she is safe...  "Yes"  I will buy one.   Heck if I like that one, I'll buy more.   Anytime I can shed some pounds in one of my aircraft and keep the same performance (or better as you state), then I will cough-up the extra $ to dump the lbs.

  Chuck

"BillDube(at)killacycle.com" <billdube(at)killacycle.com> wrote:

So, I guess you won't be my first customer. 

I have quite a few of these earmarked for my electric drag bike.

http://www.KillaCycle.com

If all goes well, they will be in the bike and we'll be at 

Route 66 drag strip in Joliet on May 13th. I'll keep the list posted 

on this. You will know the brand when the bike appears at the track. 

Ultra-high-power state-of-the-art batteries is what electric 

drag racing is all about. I have my finger on the pulse of battery 

technology, naturally. I test a lot of batteries to see if they 

really meet the manufacturer's specifications and put out the power 

that I need to race the bike. I torture them on the bench to see just 

how far I can push them on the track.

In addition to being ideal for my drag bike, these 

particular batteries are also very well suited for aircraft. This is 

because they are as safe, or safer, than lead-acid batteries. They 

cost a fortune, however. Cost is not an issue for setting world 

records, but matters to some folks that are building airplanes. It 

matters not to other folks building airplanes. No doubt, you will see 

these exact batteries in military aircraft in the next year or so. 

Commercial aircraft will have them a few years later.

I'm not trying to sell these to you now, so there is no need 

to prove that they meet specs now. I'm just trying to find out how 

many folks will pay $475 for a very high-performance, safe, 

lightweight battery for their homebuilt airplane.

If it does everything I say it does, would you pay $475 for 

one? Yes or no? I'm not requesting a commitment or any money. Just 

tell me if you would honestly consider buying one if I prove they 

really are as good as I say they are.

Bill Dube'

At 02:56 PM 4/9/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

BillDube(at)killacycle.com wrote:

 >>

 >>

 >>I find your claims a bit hard to believe.

 	  Quote: 	
		   >>

 >>

 >

 >Here's what I do for my other hobby:

 >

 >http://www.killacycle.com

 >

 > These batteries are the latest and best available. I have

 >been working directly with the manufacturer.

 >

 > Forget everything you know about batteries. For the moment,

 >consider these are made of "Krell metal". 

 >

 >

 >

 > The specs are a fact. I'm just interested in whether folks

 >would be willing to pay $475 for such a battery.

 >

 >

If such a battery does really exist I am sure people would pay for it.

Especially those in the electric RC plane hobby. However you have not

yet convinced me that a battery that meets all the criteria in your OP

exists. The links above mention nothing about such a battery, at least

if they don't I can't find it. I don't mean any disrespect, but I am

not going to take the word of someone on a message board about something

with out any evidence to back it up. I also don't think you will get a

lot of response to your query until proof that such a battery does exist

and can do what you say.

do not archive

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

BillDube(at)killacycle.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  



Forget all you knew about batteries. These are not what you are familiar with.



They meet the specs and are safe.



Would you pay $475 for such a battery?



Bill Dube'

  



No I already have a safe reliable battery it is called a Odyessy 680. 
	


Let see I am going on three years now with my

680 and it cranks as well as the day I put it in. I paid $70.00 for it 

so how many can I buy in 10 years and still have money in my pocket?

Yes it weighs a few lbs. more but so wha,t don't eat such a big 

breakfast. 

I hope it works out for you Bill as new ideas are always a good thing.



Jerry

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

When I open this link, I get a text file and my puter

locks up.  Anybody else have this problem?

Dave

--- gert <gert.v(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 <gert.v(at)sbcglobal.net>

 Hmmm somehow asterixes sneaked in the correct URL is

 http://www.helihobby.com/videos/LithiumBattery.wmv

 Darwin N. Barrie wrote:

 > 

 <ktlkrn(at)cox.net>

 >

 > Hi Bill,

 >

 > Sounds like Lithium Ion or Polymer to me. If it

 is, I would have extreme concerns as to what the

 safety measures would be insure no fire or

 explosion.

 >

 > Being heavy into RC with several LiPo powered

 electrics and helicopters, I can tell you these

 batteries are nowhere near safe. I only charge these

 batteries when I'm monitoring them. Additionally, I

 charge them in a deal called a "battery bunker"

 which is like a small SWAT team containment can in

 the event of over heating and/or explosion.

 >

 > I have had 2 friends have their vechicles burn to

 the ground while charging these batteries. They

 cannot handle ANY over charging at all. One exploded

 when only being charged at .5 its rated amperage.

 Normal charge is 1:1.

 >

 > I commend your ingenuity but this may be a tough

 sell. Maybe after you put one in your plane and fly

 it a few hundred hours they may gain some

 acceptance. In the mean time $475 equates to 7

 Odyssey batteries.

 >

 > Darwin N. Barrie

 > Chandler AZ

 > RV-7 N717EE

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >  

 >  

 >  

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >   

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Work for me.



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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Sounds like a great experimental aircraft battery option - At 3 lbs, I'll be 

your first customer. Or, At least put me on the list.

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: World's best airplane battery

Same thing here. I had to pull the plug!



Bill

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