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roxianmike(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: riveting the cabin top

So I can no longer avoid it..........I am going to rivet on my cabin top this weekend.  I have avoided it as long as possible to enjoy the advantage of having good access to the tailcone as I discovered more and more things I wanted to do back there........but I digress.

  

 I saw this morning that the plans call for CS4-4 rivets for attachment of the cabin top to the side skins.  Has anyone used solid rivets C as I clearly have access to buck them?  Would that be an improvement? Would that potentially damabe the composite from the impact of driving the rivets?

  

 Thanks in advance for any thoughts on it.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: riveting the cabin top

the cs-4 rivets will not damage the composite top and are used in shear between the two aluminum layers.  If you use solid rivets you will damage the epoxy / glass as the rivet expands.  



Use the cs-4's

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: riveting the cabin top

I read on Tim olsens site that he tried it. I won't try to remember what he stated but you can look it up on his site. 

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: riveting the cabin top

I used the CS4-4s.  Most people I've talked to who used solid rivets said it wasn't worth it.  Tim's comments sum it up pretty well:

 http://myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050816/index.html

  

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 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike(at)msn.com (roxianmike(at)msn.com)> wrote:

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		   So I can no longer avoid it..........I am going to rivet on my cabin top this weekend.  I have avoided it as long as possible to enjoy the advantage of having good access to the tailcone as I discovered more and more things I wanted to do back there........but I digress.

  

I saw this morning that the plans call for CS4-4 rivets for attachment of the cabin top to the side skins.  Has anyone used solid rivets, as I clearly have access to buck them?  Would that be an improvement? Would that potentially damabe the composite from the impact of driving the rivets?

  

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on it.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: riveting the cabin top

I have heard that Van’s selected pulled rivets over solid rivets, so we don’t break any glass pounding the rivet head.  Ultimately causing structural issues.  

   

Most people lay a layer of 2 oz glass over the top of the pulled rivets to hide the rivet heads.  

   

Phil  

   

   

       

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So I can no longer avoid it..........I am going to rivet on my cabin top this weekend.  I have avoided it as long as possible to enjoy the advantage of having good access to the tailcone as I discovered more and more things I wanted to do back there........but I digress.

  

 I saw this morning that the plans call for CS4-4 rivets for attachment of the cabin top to the side skins.  Has anyone used solid rivets, as I clearly have access to buck them?  Would that be an improvement? Would that potentially damabe the composite from the impact of driving the rivets?

  

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roxianmike(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: riveting the cabin top

Thanks for multiple great replys..........CS4-4s it is!

 

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From: sean(at)braunandco.com

Date: Fri C 27 Nov 2009 01:23:34 +0000



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 Date: Thu C 26 Nov 2009 18:05:51 -0700

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