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dalewhelan



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: bad practice Reply with quote

Weather briefer said a few small cells
Weather clearing when we decided to fly west 17 miles.
8 miles out sky behind us started to darken.
Landed at destination.
2 alternate airports 1 40 minutes south the other 30 minutes north skirting a storm.
Return home before storm hits Pleasant Valley.
65 mph cruise
ground speed starts dropping.
finally stabilizes at 15, flying into storm with 50 mph headwind.
Told Greg this is the dumbest thing I have done.
20 minutes of sunlight left.
lightning seen.
High power zero vsi between cloud and mountain on leaward side in rain visibility drops.
6 miles to go and cant see airport.
AWOS at nearby airport 16G26 headwind
4 miles no runway
2 miles no runway
1.9 miles runway
On final, 90 degree windsock
At touchdown almost calm
5 minutes later calm
10 minutes later, sunset
I need to practice less luck and better decision making


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: bad practice Reply with quote

Dale, Yep, you were lucky. Number One Pilot Killer - Continued flight into deteriorating weather.

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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM, dalewhelan <dalewhelan(at)earthlink.net (dalewhelan(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dalewhelan" <dalewhelan(at)earthlink.net (dalewhelan(at)earthlink.net)>

Weather briefer said a few small cells
Weather clearing when we  decided to fly west 17 miles.
8 miles out sky behind us started to darken.
Landed at destination.
2 alternate airports 1 40 minutes south the other 30 minutes north skirting a storm.
Return home before storm hits Pleasant Valley.
65 mph cruise
ground speed starts dropping.
finally stabilizes at 15, flying into storm with 50 mph headwind.
Told Greg this is the dumbest thing I have done.
20 minutes of sunlight left.
lightning seen.
High power zero vsi between cloud and mountain on leaward side in rain visibility drops.
6 miles to go and cant see airport.
AWOS at nearby airport 16G26 headwind
4 miles no runway
2 miles no runway
1.9 miles runway
On final, 90 degree windsock
At touchdown almost calm
5 minutes later calm
10 minutes later, sunset
I need to practice less luck and better decision making

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503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept




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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: bad practice Reply with quote

Dale,

A couple of years ago a roman catholic priest took off from Jamestown Airport south of Buffalo with a few other of his priest buddies on board their twin engine Aerostar. Conditions were similar to what you described and just as fleeting. If he had waited 1/2 hour he would have avoided the conditions completely. He and his fellow priests all died before the brief storm passed.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: bad practice Reply with quote

Here in Texas we often have head winds flying back home from our
favorite lake resort restaurant after breakfast. When you watch your
ground speed on the GPS and the ETA against your remaining fuel
supply, it starts the pucker factor. After a few times of this we
now carry 2-1/2 gal. Jerry jug with us to add before departing. Smile
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