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 Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: duracell battery leak and "engineers" |
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First, Merry Christmas everyone.
Second, George,
I personally have, in many ways, similar feelings to Bob towards Engineers. It is not the engineers fault exactly but it seems there are a lot of jobs out there that have little or nothing to do with engineering that people, usually in human resources, have decreed can only be filled by an engineer. There also seems a certain snobbishness among many engineers. Looking at your signature you are apparently a mechanical engineer, working as a pilot, giving an opinion on batteries so it would seem your qualifications to discuss batteries is no greater than anyone else.
At the shipyard where I used to work it was policy that no one could be a manager without an engineering degree. It made no sense that even in the accounting department you had to have an engineering degree to be a manager. Also "engineers" were being hired right out of college to supervise men with 20+ years on the job. As a maintenance planner every job I plan has to be reviewed by an engineer. Sometimes they come up with the most impractical ideas and almost daily show their ignorance of the systems they are supposed to be "experts" on. I have yet to see any of them open a book or do any of those advanced math or physics calculations they learned in college. Long story short my experience has led me to placing engineers almost equal to lawyers. They are invaluable when you really need one but good ones are hard to find and most of the time you can do without them.
For the record, and I could be wrong,I do not think Thomas Edison, Eli Whitney, or the Wright Brothers had engineering degrees. Many of the best inventors did not have engineering degrees but much of the building of America could not have been done without engineers building roads, bridges and other infrastructure.
Rodney
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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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| Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: duracell battery leak and "engineers" |
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An Engineering degree does not an engineer make!
Nor is an Engineering degree required to be an engineer.
I had classmates in my engineering classes that DID NOT KNOW how change
a flat on their car. They called a service station to come and do it.
An Engineering degree implies a certain skill set, and says nothing
about the ability to apply that skill set to the real world.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.
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r.r.hall(at)cox.net wrote:
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First, Merry Christmas everyone.
Second, George,
I personally have, in many ways, similar feelings to Bob towards
Engineers. It is not the engineers fault exactly but it seems there are
a lot of jobs out there that have little or nothing to do with
engineering that people, usually in human resources, have decreed can
only be filled by an engineer. There also seems a certain snobbishness
among many engineers. Looking at your signature you are apparently a
mechanical engineer, working as a pilot, giving an opinion on batteries
so it would seem your qualifications to discuss batteries is no greater
than anyone else.
At the shipyard where I used to work it was policy that no one could be
a manager without an engineering degree. It made no sense that even in
the accounting department you had to have an engineering degree to be a
manager. Also "engineers" were being hired right out of college to
supervise men with 20+ years on the job. As a maintenance planner every
job I plan has to be reviewed by an engineer. Sometimes they come up
with the most impractical ideas and almost daily show their ignorance of
the systems they are supposed to be "experts" on. I have yet to see any
of them open a book or do any of those advanced math or physics
calculations they learned in college. Long story short my experience has
led me to placing engineers almost equal to lawyers. They are invaluable
when you really need one but good ones are hard to find and most of the
time you can do without them.
For the record, and I could be wrong,I do not think Thomas Edison, Eli
Whitney, or the Wright Brothers had engineering degrees. Many of the
best inventors did not have engineering degrees but much of the building
of America could not have been done without engineers building roads,
bridges and other infrastructure.
Rodney
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