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AeroElectric-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 01/01/10

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 01/01/10 Reply with quote

Jerry,
All interesting information.
But, your assumption is that you are the only safety conscious one on the forum and the rest of us are idiots. That simply is not the case. (If you doubt this comment, then refer to your comments below "I have a plan" and "overly complicated equipment and redundant backup systems, much of which you barely understand.")
I wonder - why you think the rest of us are stupid?
You said, "What concerns me is that all the emergency procedures required
to take advantage of redundant systems must be committed to writing and to memory;
then must be tested, practiced and periodically rehearsed." Why are you concerned? Do you fear that adding electric flaps instead of manual flaps adds complication? Using a flap example may seem like an invalid argument to you, but 40 years ago many were saying exactly what you are saying today about adding "too much complication" to the cockpit. Manual is better was the claim. In many ways it was. I prefer manual flaps even today. But the reality is that electric (or hydraulic - talk about complicated) flaps are the norm today. And appropriate emergency procedures are established for the "upgrade" to electricity. And suppose the electric (hydraulic) flaps don't work? You land anyway!
What about electric starters? Lots of complications and emergency procedures added as a result of adding starters to airplanes. Propping is the way to go. Well ... except for that TIO-540. Well a TIO-540 is too complicated anyway - leave it off. Too many emergency procedures.
I agree with you that any component added to the airframe complicates operations and emergencies somewhat - and adds weight. I do not agree with your admonishment of other builders that they are too ignorant to add such complication or redundancy. Other builders (myself excepted) undoubtedly have approximately the same level of "smarts" as you and they know to establish, verify, and practice emergency procedures for installed equipment.
I hate it when "I know better than you" type people espouse their admonishments on the forum. We are building experimental aircraft.  We are going to experiment. We may make good improvements for aviation. We will, by necessity, devise new emergency procedures to accommodate the improvements. We do plan for and practice the emergency procedures. And ... we are not stupid.
BTW, have you ever started one of Ford's Model A's? Talk about complicated! I'll take the convenience of today's "complicated", computer-overloaded autos.
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Stan Sutterfield
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Parts left out cost nothing and cause no service problems. Parts left out also
can cause no emergencies or smoke in the cockpit. I believe that the first statement
was attributed to GMs Charles Boss Kettering.  Henry Ford was a great
advocate of the value of simplicity too; whether it be in life, in work or in
play. If our missions often involve flying IFR at night, then a very good case
can be made for all the backups, added equipment and redundancy advocated in
this forum. What concerns me is that all the emergency procedures required
to take advantage of redundant systems must be committed to writing and to memory;
then must be tested, practiced and periodically rehearsed. With the increased
costs of flying, TRUE currency becomes even more elusive. During an emergency,
pilots rarely have time to look in their POH for emergency procedures;
you will not have time either. When the adrenalin and sweat is flowing and when
fear and tunnel vision sets in is not the time to begin learning emergency
procedures.

What is your plan to counter smoke in the cockpit? I have a plan. The FAA is
currently saying that you need one too.

If 99% of your planned missions are day VFR, think twice or 3 times, before going
overboard on adding overly complicated equipment and redundant backup systems,
much of which you barely understand. And dont forget that your airplane will
perform better with less weight.

--------
Jerry King

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