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Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done with the first annual.
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Terry Watson
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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Ralph,
I mounted the oil cooler shutter on the baffle-mounted oil cooler, and another as an alternate air bypass on the bottom of the air cleaner. I have photos of the air filter one but not the oil cooler. I could get photos without too much trouble if you need them.
Here is a link to the photos of the air filter shutter installation: http://tcwatson.zenfolio.com/p288537335/e31f70275
It hasn't flown yet but I think the shutters will work well in both locations.
Terry
RV-8A #80729 stalled in the shop
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done with the first annual.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:10 pm Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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ralph C
Check the van's catelog. They have a oil cooler door that works from the cockpit. They call it the oil cooler vent and/or oil shutter. It works quite well.
Mike Robertson
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From: recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
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Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done with the first annual.
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bobbyhester(at)newwavecom
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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I have the van's oil cooler shutter and this weekend with it completely closed with OAT of 20 degrees I was only getting between 140-150 degrees oil temp on a one hour flight. I'll see if I can find my pictures. I take it completely off in the hot months and usually see about 170-190.
XP-O360 regular baffles shutter in frt of oil cooler.
steve wrote: [quote] Just flew back from California to Topeka, Ks. Outside departure temp was 19 when I left Topeka and arrival temp was 12. I flew at 10,500 and 9,500 over the rockies. My oat temp was never above 28 F however the sensor is in the cabin air inlet area and I'm told it reads high due to the engine heat. But, I was able to very the oil temp between 160 and 180 the entire way. It works! If you want some pix I'll send them (they're still in the camera). Installation was easy as was the cable routing. I would do it again in a heart beat. And, no. I'm not going to mention the temperature in Southern California!!!
Steve Stucky
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Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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I found my pictures:
http://picasaweb.google.com/bobbyhesterKY/OilCoolerShutter#
I have the van's oil cooler shutter and this weekend with it completely
closed with OAT of 20 degrees I was only getting between 140-150 degrees
oil temp on a one hour flight. I'll see if I can find my pictures. I
take it completely off in the hot months and usually see about 170-190.
XP-O360 regular baffles shutter in frt of oil cooler.
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Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done with the first annual.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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Steve C I take it your not using the shutter style oil cooler set-up. If possible when the photo's are available try to host them and post a link for us to learn from. TIA C Bruce
RV-8
Date: Mon C 4 Jan 2010 17:13:35 -0800
From: steve282s(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Van's oil cooler shutter
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com; lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com
.ExternalClass DIV {;} Just flew back from California to Topeka C Ks. Outside departure temp was 19 when I left Topeka and arrival temp was 12. I flew at 10 C500 and 9 C500 over the rockies. My oat temp was never above 28 F however the sensor is in the cabin air inlet area and I'm told it reads high due to the engine heat. But C I was able to very the oil temp between 160 and 180 the entire way. It works! If you want some pix I'll send them (they're still in the camera). Installation was easy as was the cable routing. I would do it again in a heart beat. And C no. I'm not going to mention the temperature in Southern California!!!
Steve Stucky
RV-7
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>; lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Mon C January 4 C 2010 4:03:14 PM
Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done withntent also available via the -Matt Drall============
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steve282s(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:00 am Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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I'm using the shutter style add-on from Vans that fits between the baffle behind cyl #4 and the oil cooler. The shutter deflection is then operated via an automotive choke style cable mounted near the instrument panel. I'll try to get the pix posted today. But, I'm old, retired, tired, and this is hard.
steve
282S VariEze
283S RV7
From: BRUCE GRAY <brucerv84us(at)hotmail.com>
To: Matronics <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 6:21:44 PM
Subject: RE: Van's oil cooler shutter
Steve, I take it your not using the shutter style oil cooler set-up. If possible when the photo's are available try to host them and post a link for us to learn from. TIA, Bruce
RV-8
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:13:35 -0800
From: steve282s(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Van's oil cooler shutter
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com; lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com
.ExternalClass DIV {} Just flew back from California to Topeka, Ks. Outside departure temp was 19 when I left Topeka and arrival temp was 12. I flew at 10,500 and 9,500 over the rockies. My oat temp was never above 28 F however the sensor is in the cabin air inlet area and I'm told it reads high due to the engine heat. But, I was able to very the oil temp between 160 and 180 the entire way. It works! If you want some pix I'll send them (they're still in the camera). Installation was easy as was the cable routing. I would do it again in a heart beat. And, no. I'm not going to mention the temperature in Southern California!!!
Steve Stucky
RV-7
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>; lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 4:03:14 PM
Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done withntent also available via the -Matt Drall============
Hotmail: Powerful Free email with ect/01/' target='_new'>Get it now. [/quote]
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steve282s(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:04 am Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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Hi Ralph,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle. The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>; lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net (recapen(at)earthlink.net)>
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web bsp; -Matt Dralle, ===========
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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Hi Bruce,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle. The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days. On the 7, the oil cooler mounts on the baffle behind cyl #7. Not sure of your cooler setup on the 8. My friends 8 is mounted on the lower left air entrance. I guess it's just a matter of routing the control cable differantly. Email me if you have questions.
ps I tried to get this to the list but I doubt it made it, so sending it to you and a couple others.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
From: BRUCE GRAY <brucerv84us(at)hotmail.com>
To: Matronics <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 6:21:44 PM
Subject: RE: Van's oil cooler shutter
Steve, I take it your not using the shutter style oil cooler set-up. If possible when the photo's are available try to host them and post a link for us to learn from. TIA, Bruce
RV-8
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:13:35 -0800
From: steve282s(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Van's oil cooler shutter
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com; lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com
.ExternalClass DIV {} Just flew back from California to Topeka, Ks. Outside departure temp was 19 when I left Topeka and arrival temp was 12. I flew at 10,500 and 9,500 over the rockies. My oat temp was never above 28 F however the sensor is in the cabin air inlet area and I'm told it reads high due to the engine heat. But, I was able to very the oil temp between 160 and 180 the entire way. It works! If you want some pix I'll send them (they're still in the camera). Installation was easy as was the cable routing. I would do it again in a heart beat. And, no. I'm not going to mention the temperature in Southern California!!!
Steve Stucky
RV-7
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>; lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 4:03:14 PM
Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done withntent also available via the -Matt Drall============
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Just a little off topic. I will be ready to measure for hoses this weekend and intend to use the aeroquip 666 teflon hoses for both fuel and oil..i have planned to uses hoses with the integrated firesleeve…two questions..first, is the firesleeve absolutely the right thing to do. I have seen a lot of installations without it..Second, is there another source for these hoses besides spruce ie cheaper..
Back on topic…we installed the sw double pass filter and are thinking we may need to restrict airflow in the winter too..we were considering the somewhat less sophisticated duct tape alternative..
Thanks
8A
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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:02 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Van's oil cooler shutter
Hi Ralph,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle. The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>; lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net (recapen(at)earthlink.net)>
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web bsp; -Matt Dralle, ===========
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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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This looks like a nice way to control oil cooler air flow for those mounting coolers someplace other than the rear baffle:
4” version http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-controller-cooler-p-14566.html?osCsid=bc77b7d1ef861c7cd83d92c5a28010dc
3” version http://www.nonstopaviation.com/controller-cooler-p-14592.html
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (525 hrs)
RV-10 (systems install)
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Bell
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:11 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Van's oil cooler shutter
Just a little off topic. I will be ready to measure for hoses this weekend and intend to use the aeroquip 666 teflon hoses for both fuel and oil..i have planned to uses hoses with the integrated firesleeve…two questions..first, is the firesleeve absolutely the right thing to do. I have seen a lot of installations without it..Second, is there another source for these hoses besides spruce ie cheaper..
Back on topic…we installed the sw double pass filter and are thinking we may need to restrict airflow in the winter too..we were considering the somewhat less sophisticated duct tape alternative..
Thanks
8A
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:02 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Van's oil cooler shutter
Hi Ralph,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle. The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>; lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net (recapen(at)earthlink.net)>
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web bsp; -Matt Dralle, ===========
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bell
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:32 am Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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Sorry…cooler..not filter..
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Bell
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:11 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Van's oil cooler shutter
Just a little off topic. I will be ready to measure for hoses this weekend and intend to use the aeroquip 666 teflon hoses for both fuel and oil..i have planned to uses hoses with the integrated firesleeve…two questions..first, is the firesleeve absolutely the right thing to do. I have seen a lot of installations without it..Second, is there another source for these hoses besides spruce ie cheaper..
Back on topic…we installed the sw double pass filter and are thinking we may need to restrict airflow in the winter too..we were considering the somewhat less sophisticated duct tape alternative..
Thanks
8A
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:02 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Van's oil cooler shutter
Hi Ralph,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle. The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>; lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net (recapen(at)earthlink.net)>
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web bsp; -Matt Dralle, ===========
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dsvs(at)ca.rr.com
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: Van's oil cooler shutter |
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You can get the hoses with integrated fire sleeve in brown or blue from Heber Aircraft in Torrance CA http://www.herberaircraft.com. They treat every order as an AOG so you will get very fast service. I used them for all my oil and fuel lines.
Don VS
RV7 flying
---- Glenn Bell <glennbell(at)cablelynx.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Just a little off topic. I will be ready to measure for hoses this weekend
and intend to use the aeroquip 666 teflon hoses for both fuel and oil..i
have planned to uses hoses with the integrated firesleeve.two
questions..first, is the firesleeve absolutely the right thing to do. I have
seen a lot of installations without it..Second, is there another source for
these hoses besides spruce ie cheaper..
Back on topic.we installed the sw double pass filter and are thinking we may
need to restrict airflow in the winter too..we were considering the somewhat
less sophisticated duct tape alternative..
Thanks
8A
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:02 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Van's oil cooler shutter
Hi Ralph,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it
away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before
installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the
cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill
guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts
through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle.
The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to
vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set
screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl
clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the
shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the
cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on
summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the
case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four
bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is
messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator
cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and
cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm
rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small
bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the
quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works
great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
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From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>; lycoming engine list
<lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
Subject: Van's oil cooler shutter
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold
in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil
temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT
ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a
fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this
cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) (at) N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web
bsp; -Matt Dralle, ===========
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