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 Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:23 am Post subject: trimming cabin cover door openings |
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Just to close the loop on this, now that I'm in the final stages of fitting my doors, I'm having to build up the lower edge of the door frame to narrow the gap between it and the door when it's closed. The sides are pretty good as-is, and I'm needing to trim a little more off the top.
In short, for anyone who hasn't started working on their canpoy yet, cut plenty (probably 3/8") outside the scribe lines on the bottom of the cabin frame.
-Rob
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Thank you all for the tips. Sounds like I should be reasonably conservative for now and expect to cut more later, but not worry about it too much. I will now have to go find something else to worry about.
Thanks again..
-Rob
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM, linn <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Les, thanks for the note! This morning we glued the pilots door halves together. Attached is picture. You can see the tabs I used to hold the bottom door tight to the fuselage. The door halves fit really well together, and did fit the contour of the fuselage with the exception of the very top where the hinges go. Also, the angle of the two halves was different in the area of the third cleco up where the windshield will be, and I just filled that with epoxy/milled fiber. All in all, the gluing went well, but it was really messy!!!
Now comes the trimming/sanding/filling/sanding/contouring .....
Passenger door goes together next week!! ... Should be a whole lot easier since I didn't trim the passenger side like the pilot side!!!
Linn
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Linn
I am not sure if I understand your problem about the bottom of the door, but
if I have got it right there may be a better solution for you.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: trimming cabin cover door openings |
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Sorry I wasn't clear... I meant leave about 3/8" extra.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jae Chang <jchang(at)jline.com (jchang(at)jline.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Rob... i am a little confused. you say you are having to build up the lower edge, but then you say to cut plenty off the lower edge.
Can you explain? I have my doors fitted without seals. I know it's going to require more trimming down of the door edge, once i make a decision on the type of door seals if any i want. not looking forward to it.
jae
Rob Kochman wrote:
| Quote: | Just to close the loop on this, now that I'm in the final stages of fitting my doors, I'm having to build up the lower edge of the door frame to narrow the gap between it and the door when it's closed. The sides are pretty good as-is, and I'm needing to trim a little more off the top. In short, for anyone who hasn't started working on their canpoy yet, cut plenty (probably 3/8") outside the scribe lines on the bottom of the cabin frame.
-Rob
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com) <mailto:rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
Thank you all for the tips. Sounds like I should be reasonably
conservative for now and expect to cut more later, but not worry
about it too much. I will now have to go find something else to
worry about.
Thanks again..
-Rob
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM, linn <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)
<mailto:pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
Les, thanks for the note! This morning we glued the pilots
door halves together. Attached is picture. You can see the
tabs I used to hold the bottom door tight to the fuselage.
The door halves fit really well together, and did fit the
contour of the fuselage with the exception of the very top
where the hinges go. Also, the angle of the two halves was
different in the area of the third cleco up where the
windshield will be, and I just filled that with epoxy/milled
fiber. All in all, the gluing went well, but it was really
messy!!!
Now comes the trimming/sanding/filling/sanding/contouring .....
Passenger door goes together next week!! ... Should be a whole
lot easier since I didn't trim the passenger side like the
pilot side!!!
Linn
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Linn
I am not sure if I understand your problem about the
bottom of the door, but
if I have got it right there may be a better solution for
you.
SNIP!
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Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:00 pm Post subject: trimming cabin cover door openings |
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I'm with you..............I used the scribe line as a guide and ended up with less flange on the bottom of the door than desired. Still trying to determine the best way to solve.
Date: Fri C 29 Jan 2010 08:22:20 -0800
Subject: Re: trimming cabin cover door openings
From: rv10rob(at)gmail.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Just to close the loop on this C now that I'm in the final stages of fitting my doors C I'm having to build up the lower edge of the door frame to narrow the gap between it and the door when it's closed. The sides are pretty good as-is C and I'm needing to trim a little more off the top.
In short C for anyone who hasn't started working on their canpoy yet C cut plenty (probably 3/8") outside the scribe lines on the bottom of the cabin frame.
-Rob
On Fri C May 29 C 2009 at 8:43 PM C Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Thank you all for the tips. Sounds like I should be reasonably conservative for now and expect to cut more later C but not worry about it too much. I will now have to go find something else to worry about.
Thanks again..
-Rob
On Thu C May 28 C 2009 at 11:56 AM C linn <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Les C thanks for the note! This morning we glued the pilots door halves together. Attached is picture. You can see the tabs I used to hold the bottom door tight to the fuselage. The door halves fit really well together C and did fit the contour of the fuselage with the exception of the very top where the hinges go. Also C the angle of the two halves was different in the area of the third cleco up where the windshield will be C and I just filled that with epoxy/milled fiber. All in all C the gluing went well C but it was really messy!!!
Now comes the trimming/sanding/filling/sanding/contouring ....
Passenger door goes together next week!! ... Should be a whole lot easier since I didn't trim the passenger side like the pilot side!!!
Linn
Les Kearney wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: "Les Kearney" <kearney(at)shaw.ca (kearney(at)shaw.ca)>
Linn
I am not sure if I understand your problem about the bottom of the door C but
if I have got it right there may be a better solution for you.
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SNIP!
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RV-10 Wings
Woodinville C WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:33 pm Post subject: trimming cabin cover door openings |
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I'm building mine up with epoxy/flox. It's going to take a lot of sanding and filling to get it to look right. In retrospect, I should have at least saved the trimmings when I did the initial cut.
-Rob
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike(at)msn.com (roxianmike(at)msn.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I'm with you..............I used the scribe line as a guide and ended up with less flange on the bottom of the door than desired. Still trying to determine the best way to solve.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:22:20 -0800
Subject: Re: trimming cabin cover door openings
From: rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Just to close the loop on this, now that I'm in the final stages of fitting my doors, I'm having to build up the lower edge of the door frame to narrow the gap between it and the door when it's closed. The sides are pretty good as-is, and I'm needing to trim a little more off the top.
In short, for anyone who hasn't started working on their canpoy yet, cut plenty (probably 3/8") outside the scribe lines on the bottom of the cabin frame.
-Rob
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Thank you all for the tips. Sounds like I should be reasonably conservative for now and expect to cut more later, but not worry about it too much. I will now have to go find something else to worry about.
Thanks again..
-Rob
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM, linn <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Les, thanks for the note! This morning we glued the pilots door halves together. Attached is picture. You can see the tabs I used to hold the bottom door tight to the fuselage. The door halves fit really well together, and did fit the contour of the fuselage with the exception of the very top where the hinges go. Also, the angle of the two halves was different in the area of the third cleco up where the windshield will be, and I just filled that with epoxy/milled fiber. All in all, the gluing went well, but it was really messy!!!
Now comes the trimming/sanding/filling/sanding/contouring .....
Passenger door goes together next week!! ... Should be a whole lot easier since I didn't trim the passenger side like the pilot side!!!
Linn
Les Kearney wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: "Les Kearney" <kearney(at)shaw.ca (kearney(at)shaw.ca)>
Linn
I am not sure if I understand your problem about the bottom of the door, but
if I have got it right there may be a better solution for you.
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SNIP!
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Wings
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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I did the same thing. Cutting to the scribe line on everything except the bottom works fine. I'll need to build it back up - but not too much. Dave Saylor gave me the best advice. Build it back up with flox and use dacron peel ply.
The real question is why we are building an Aluminum airplane and doing so much plastic work?
John
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: trimming cabin cover door openings |
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I was thinking it might be an option to build up the door threshold rather than the door................I have some conern that building up the flange on the door might be easy to chip or break off later...........it sounds like others are having luck building up the door flange so I guess I will go that route for now.........ugh
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I did the same thing. Cutting to the scribe line on everything except the bottom works fine. I'll need to build it back up - but not too much. Dave Saylor gave me the best advice. Build it back up with flox and use dacron peel ply.
The real question is why we are building an Aluminum airplane and doing so much plastic work?
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| Quote: | | I was thinking it might be an option to build up�the door threshold rather than the door................I have some conern that�building up�the flange on the door might be easy to chip or break off�later...........it sounds like�others are having luck building up the door flange so I�guess I will go that route for now.........ugh |
I think we were always talking about the canopy flange, not the door.
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Got it. Thanks John
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Date: Fri C 29 Jan 2010 18:44:58 -0800
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> I was thinking it might be an option to build up�the door threshold rather than the door................I have some conern that�building up�the flange on the door might be easy to chip or break off�later...........it sounds like�others are having luck building up the door flange so I�guess I will go that route for now.........ugh
I think we were always talking about the canopy flange C not the door.
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