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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

L.A. NOW Southern California -- this just in
Two die when Soviet-era plane crashes near Redlands February 8, 2010 |  3:37 pm
Federal investigators were responding Monday to a single-engine airplane crash that killed two people 10 miles north of Redlands in San Bernardino County, authorities said.

The Yakovlev YAK-52 aircraft crashed about 12:50 p.m. in a wash after taking off from Redlands Airport, according to preliminary information released by the Federal Aviation Administration.

A man and a woman on board were killed, the FAA said. Their names were not released.

The Yakovlev was originally designed as a Soviet trainer and acrobatic aircraft. The pilot had intended to return to Redlands Airport, authorities said.

Investigators with the FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board were heading to the crash site Monday afternoon.

The plane was owned by a Riverside man, according to FAA registration records.

-- Robert J. Lopez



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:13 am    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

This is the clip from the Redlands newspaper online:

http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sanbernardinocounty/ci_14360951

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

Not good. Still one to go. Taking bets on jammed elevator? Maybe it is the tail is lying on the ground but this appears to be a near vertical impact with the elevator just pitch down slightly. I would like to see what is in that tail section.
Anyone know this pilot?
Doc

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:13 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
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This is the clip from the Redlands newspaper online:



http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sanbernardinocounty/ci_14360951



Mark Davis

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From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)

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L.A. NOW Southern California -- this just in
Two die when Soviet-era plane crashes near Redlands
February 8, 2010 | 3:37 pm

Federal investigators were responding Monday to a single-engine airplane crash that killed two people 10 miles north of Redlands in San Bernardino County, authorities said.

The Yakovlev YAK-52 aircraft crashed about 12:50 p.m. in a wash after taking off from Redlands Airport, according to preliminary information released by the Federal Aviation Administration.

A man and a woman on board were killed, the FAA said. Their names were not released.

The Yakovlev was originally designed as a Soviet trainer and acrobatic aircraft. The pilot had intended to return to Redlands Airport, authorities said.

Investigators with the FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board were heading to the crash site Monday afternoon.

The plane was owned by a Riverside man, according to FAA registration records.

-- Robert J. Lopez




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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_14363329

Joseph M Gauthier and Amanda Herrington
I do not know them - only this attached news story.
Herb

On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote:
[quote]Not good. Still one to go. Taking bets on jammed elevator? Maybe it is the tail is lying on the ground but this appears to be a near vertical impact with the elevator just pitch down slightly. I would like to see what is in that tail section.
Anyone know this pilot?
Doc

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:13 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Another plane down??

This is the clip from the Redlands newspaper online:



http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sanbernardinocounty/ci_14360951



Mark Davis

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

My Sympathies to the families.
Fly safe guys and maintain those aircraft. That was not intended to imply anything about this accident period. A good preflight and a good maintenance program will hopefully save one from this fate.
Blue Skies to those gone West.

Doc

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http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_14363329


Joseph M Gauthier and Amanda Herrington

I do not know them - only this attached news story.



Herb
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

Both were very young (under 30), both were USAF pilots flying UAV's in the CaANG at March AFB. He owned the 52, she owned a share in a Cessna 120._________________________________
On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Herb Coussons wrote:
[quote]http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_14363329

Joseph M Gauthier and Amanda Herrington
I do not know them - only this attached news story.
Herb

On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote:
[quote]Not good. Still one to go. Taking bets on jammed elevator? Maybe it is the tail is lying on the ground but this appears to be a near vertical impact with the elevator just pitch down slightly. I would like to see what is in that tail section.
Anyone know this pilot?
Doc

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:13 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Another plane down??

This is the clip from the Redlands newspaper online:



http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sanbernardinocounty/ci_14360951



Mark Davis

N44YK

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

To bad - so young and evidently very bright folks.

Looking just a the elevator, (and assuming that nothing has been moved), the elevator is slightly "down" not "up" which by its inverted position, it should be down (up) just by the force of gravity. The wreckage indicates a vertical impact. I agree with Doc, I'd look for jamming problem.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

Bummer. Thanks for the intel.
Doc

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Both were very young (under 30), both were USAF pilots flying UAV's in the CaANG at March AFB. He owned the 52, she owned a share in a Cessna 120.
_________________________________
On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Herb Coussons wrote:




http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_14363329


Joseph M Gauthier and Amanda Herrington

I do not know them - only this attached news story.



Herb






On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote:




Not good. Still one to go. Taking bets on jammed elevator? Maybe it is the tail is lying on the ground but this appears to be a near vertical impact with the elevator just pitch down slightly. I would like to see what is in that tail section.

Anyone know this pilot?

Doc



From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:13 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another plane down??





This is the clip from the Redlands newspaper online:





http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sanbernardinocounty/ci_14360951





Mark Davis


N44YK

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From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)


To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)


Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:32 PM


Subject: Another plane down??





L.A. NOW Southern California -- this just in
Two die when Soviet-era plane crashes near Redlands
February 8, 2010 | 3:37 pm


Federal investigators were responding Monday to a single-engine airplane crash that killed two people 10 miles north of Redlands in San Bernardino County, authorities said.

The Yakovlev YAK-52 aircraft crashed about 12:50 p.m. in a wash after taking off from Redlands Airport, according to preliminary information released by the Federal Aviation Administration.

A man and a woman on board were killed, the FAA said. Their names were not released.

The Yakovlev was originally designed as a Soviet trainer and acrobatic aircraft. The pilot had intended to return to Redlands Airport, authorities said.

Investigators with the FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board were heading to the crash site Monday afternoon.

The plane was owned by a Riverside man, according to FAA registration records.

-- Robert J. Lopez





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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:05 am    Post subject: Another plane down?? Reply with quote

So sad.
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