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rv10rob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: Installing main gear leg fairings first

Hi, all... I'm planning on doing my landing gear fairings after I'm flying.  That said, while I have the fuselage raised for installing the gear legs, I'd like to do the main gear leg fairings only, so I don't have to jack it up again later.  How feasible do you think it'd be to do the main gear fairings before doing the main gear pants?  From looking at the plans, it seems that If I attach the upper intersection (leg-to-fuselage) fairing, it'll fix the gear leg fairing in the correct alignment.  Only thing I can see being a problem is not knowing if the fairing needs to slide up or down the leg, since the pant is not installed.  Anyone think this would work?

   

 Thanks...

  

 -Rob

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jkreidler

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Installing main gear leg fairings first

Do yourself a huge favor and install the wheel pants, gear leg fairings, and both upper and lower intersection fairings before you put the wings on.  We are just finishing reworking the lower fairings because we took the 'after flying' approach.  Long story short we had to build new intersection fairings to get an acceptable fit.  Needless to say this was no fun with the wings in the way.  Not sure if just the upper will provide total alignment for you or not.



I can say without a doubt, doing all of the fairings before the wings go on is a lesson learned, I really wish we had done it that way.

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: Installing main gear leg fairings first

I do not think installing the fairings from top to bottom is a good idea at all. Spend the time now while the plane is blocked up and do everything you can even is you don't make the first flights with the fairings. Obviously as others suggested C without the wings in the way C much easier to do them now.. 



The fairings are pretty challenging and deserve a lot of effort and are worth that effort if the result is a good. Practice your geometry and get a laser.



Date: Mon C 8 Feb 2010 16:18:53 -0800

Subject: RV10-List: Installing main gear leg fairings first

From: rv10rob(at)gmail.com

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com



Hi C all... I'm planning on doing my landing gear fairings after I'm flying.  That said C while I have the fuselage raised for installing the gear legs C I'd like to do the main gear leg fairings only C so I don't have to jack it up again later.  How feasible do you think it'd be to do the main gear fairings before doing the main gear pants?  From looking at the plans C it seems that If I attach the upper intersection (leg-to-fuselage) fairing C it'll fix the gear leg fairing in the correct alignment.  Only thing I can see being a problem is not knowing if the fairing needs to slide up or down the leg C since the pant is not installed.  Anyone think this would work?

   

 Thanks...

  

 -Rob

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RV-10 "Finishing" Kit

Woodinville C WA (near Seattle)

http://kochman.net/N819K



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Jim Berry

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Installing main gear leg fairings first

I agree with Jason that you should do all the gear fairings before you mount the wings. Even more important is to do them after you hang the engine. The weight of the engine will change the position of the gear legs. Also, the upper intersection fairings should be the last to go on. Establish the position of your wheel pants, then the main gear fairings, then the upper fairings.



Jim Berry

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: Installing main gear leg fairings first

Jason has it exactly right. You will be glad you have all of the  

fairings and wheel pants fit before you put the wings on. You don't  

need to have them installed for initial flying, but you will be might  

glad they are completed. Crawling around under the wings to try and  

fit everything will be no fun.



David Maib

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On Feb 8, 2010, at 8:58 PM, jkreidler wrote:




<jason.kreidler(at)regalbeloit.com>



Do yourself a huge favor and install the wheel pants, gear leg  

fairings, and both upper and lower intersection fairings before you  

put the wings on.  We are just finishing reworking the lower fairings  

because we took the 'after flying' approach.  Long story short we had  

to build new intersection fairings to get an acceptable fit.   

Needless to say this was no fun with the wings in the way.  Not sure  

if just the upper will provide total alignment for you or not.



I can say without a doubt, doing all of the fairings before the wings  

go on is a lesson learned, I really wish we had done it that way.



--------

Jason Kreidler

4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI

Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler

N44YH - Flying - #40617





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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: Installing main gear leg fairings first

Do yourself a favor, do them all NOW. When your flying.. fly  don’t go back and build again, believe me you'll be spending a fair amount of  time on the fairings. and it's better to do now than when everything is  installed.

 Pascal

  

  



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 Subject: Installing main gear leg fairings  first

 



 Hi, all... I'm planning on doing my landing gear fairings after I'm  flying.  That said, while I have the fuselage raised for installing the  gear legs, I'd like to do the main gear leg fairings only, so I don't have to  jack it up again later.  How feasible do you think it'd be to do the main  gear fairings before doing the main gear pants?  From looking at the plans,  it seems that If I attach the upper intersection (leg-to-fuselage) fairing,  it'll fix the gear leg fairing in the correct alignment.  Only thing I can  see being a problem is not knowing if the fairing needs to slide up or down the  leg, since the pant is not installed.  Anyone think this would work?

  

 Thanks...

  

 -Rob

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Rob Kochman

RV-10 "Finishing"  Kit

Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)

http://kochman.net/N819K



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Lew Gallagher

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Installing main gear leg fairings first

Hey Jim,



It's been quite a while back, but I thought I remember the instructions saying to align wheel and strut pants with the plane suspended -- no weight on the wheels (as it will be in the air) -- if so, then the engine being mounted or not shouldn't be a factor ... ?   



At any rate, I can't imagine getting everything level, centerline parallel to wheel lines, strings to the steps, etc. with the wings on.



Later, - Lew

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: Installing main gear leg fairings first

you are correct. It is supposed to be level, I think more of the flying 

config than ground config. It is actually easier to do it without the engine 

weight  and certainly before the prop, at least in my small garage it was 

anyway.



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Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:06 PM

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 Hey Jim,



 It's been quite a while back, but I thought I remember the instructions 

 saying to align wheel and strut pants with the plane suspended -- no 

 weight on the wheels (as it will be in the air) -- if so, then the engine 

 being mounted or not shouldn't be a factor ... ?



 At any rate, I can't imagine getting everything level, centerline parallel 

 to wheel lines, strings to the steps, etc. with the wings on.



 Later, - Lew



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 non-pilot

 crazy about building

 NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549

 Painting done!

 On with wiring and avionics.





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Jim Berry

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Location: Denver

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Installing main gear leg fairings first

Lew,



You are absolutely correct. I don't know how I could have forgotten all the fun I had getting the plane off off the gear and level. Sorry 'bout that.



Jim Berry

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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:56 am Post subject: Installing main gear leg fairings first

I have had to fly with my wheel pants off before and attached to the fuselage fairing , the alignment is maintained . Do not let anyone tow your main gear over an oversized chock. It will severely damage the wheel fairing.  Robert



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		  Hi, all... I'm planning on doing my landing gear fairings after I'm flying.  That said, while I have the fuselage raised for installing the gear legs, I'd like to do the main gear leg fairings only, so I don't have to jack it up again later.  How feasible do you think it'd be to do the main gear fairings before doing the main gear pants?  From looking at the plans, it seems that If I attach the upper intersection (leg-to-fuselage) fairing, it'll fix the gear leg fairing in the correct alignment.  Only thing I can see being a problem is not knowing if the fairing needs to slide up or down the leg, since the pant is not installed.  Anyone think this would work?

   

 Thanks...

  

 -Rob

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RV-10 "Finishing" Kit

Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)

http://kochman.net/N819K



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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: Installing main gear leg fairings first

Thanks, everyone... not the answer I wanted to hear, but sounds like it'd be

better in the long run to do the fairings now.



-Rob



On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Pascal <rv10builder(at)verizon.net> wrote:



[quote]  Do yourself a favor, do them all NOW. When your flying.. fly don’t go

 back and build again, believe me you'll be spending a fair amount of time on

 the fairings. and it's better to do now than when everything is installed

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