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Thom Riddle



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

I have looked several times on YouTube for any videos of Kolb Slingshots flying and never found any until today. Thenewkolb posted some old Kolb Promo Videos on YouTube. I have found three of them. Perhaps they were there before and most of you know about them already but they were new to me. They contain videos of FF, FS, MkIII, Kolb Laser, and Slingshot.

Kolb pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc6v-uiUkz8

Kolb pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYdMSKFAkUk&feature=related

Kolb pt 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMZ5LJ8IvBc&feature=related

The Laser is in pt 2 for those who have never seen it. Interesting airplane.... for a tractor.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

Thom R/Thanks for posting the videos.

I have related to the Kolb List before about flying the original SS at
Lakeland with a professional photographer and his huge video camera resting
on my shoulder. This was the first passenger I few in the SS. I believe
that footage is included in Kolb Part 3. I don't remember what year that
was, but the pilot sure looks young.

john hauck
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Woodville, FL

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Kolb pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc6v-uiUkz8

Kolb pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYdMSKFAkUk&feature=related

Kolb pt 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMZ5LJ8IvBc&feature=related

The Laser is in pt 2 for those who have never seen it. Interesting
airplane.... for a tractor.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

The SS video began towards the end of pt 2 and finished up in pt 3. Great stuff. Also saw you (John) flying your MkIII in these videos.

When the weather changes up here in Snowville, I'll be getting the SS back into flying shape from winter storage, with plans to do some SS videos and will post to youtube when ready. The winter looks now it will be May at the earliest.

Anyone know if TNK is building Laser kits on order? Anyone know of one flying?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

John H,

Out of curiosity, do you recall when those Kolb promo videos were made?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

> Out of curiosity, do you recall when those Kolb promo videos were made?
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Please remind me when I get back to hauck's holler next week and I can tell
you after I look it up in my log book.

I flew that SS at Oshkosh the year prior for a few hours for the first time.
I was used to the normal long wings of the Kolbs I had flown. I had second
thoughts about flying this little hot rod every time I looked out at those
stubby little wings and their short little lift struts.

The SS took off and flew great out of the short strip at Oshkosh. I broke
traffic and flew out west a bit to check the stall, 40 mph IAS clean and
about 35 mph IAS with full flaperons. Stall and flight characteristics were
like all other Kolb models with the exception of the rapid roll rate and
lighter stick pressure in the roll. Landing was a no brainer, a Kolb
typical landing.

However, I was having to use a lot of power to taxi. Couldn't understand
this. Asked Dennis Souder about it. He asked if I had released the parking
brake? What parking brake? The little valve under the pilot's seat that no
one had bothered to brief me about prior to flying the SS for the first
time. I had taxied, took off, landed and taxied back to parking with the
brakes on.

Next flight with the parking brakes off, the SS taxied quite nice, took off
a lot shorter, and even landed a little better.

The SS was 582 powered.

john hauck
MKIII
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, John.

I accidentally left the parking brake on once during a takeoff roll on a grass strip after flying mostly off of pavement. I new the grass was not THAT long but did not abort the take-off. As soon as I left the ground and saw the wheels stop turning immediately, I figured out my oversight. I had no excuse, just an oversight and poor pre-take-off procedure following. That won't happen again.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

Boy now these are some vids you can't ever get tired of watching.... Thanks for posting these links.

Watching the slingshot fly I don't see why there's not a whole bunch of these. Which is my next question - how many SS's did there end up being built? Seems like it should be a pretty popular model? How's the handling on the ground?

LS


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

Lucien,

My SS is serial #021 and it was built in 2000 but I don't know how many more have been built since then. I know there is one under construction in Wellsboro, PA.

With the very long main gear legs, the weight on the tail is pretty heavy. I think mine is about 105 lb. in flight level mode, empty. In three point it is closer to 120 lb. empty and a bit more with fuel. The relatively heavy tail means it behaves more like GA tail draggers on the ground than most Kolbs. On grass it is still easy to handle but a little more challenging on pavement.

By way of comparison, it is less squirrelly than the PA-11 (90 hp Cub) that I got my initial tail wheel training in, but a bit more likely to swap ends than the RAN S6 tail dragger that I used to fly. It is not hard to handle but you should have some REAL taildragger experience before going from a short leg Kolb to an SS on pavement.

In the air, it has wonderfully light controls and quick aileron response compared to the big wing Kolbs. It does not float at all with the short (22') 110 sqft wings so when you cut power to idle it comes down right now which makes for great pinpoint touchdown. Also on the plus side, compared to big wing Kolbs, is that it has more energy for flare and less drag to kill that energy during flare.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: old Kolb promo videos Reply with quote

Thom Riddle wrote:
Lucien,

My SS is serial #021 and it was built in 2000 but I don't know how many more have been built since then. I know there is one under construction in Wellsboro, PA.

With the very long main gear legs, the weight on the tail is pretty heavy. I think mine is about 105 lb. in flight level mode, empty. In three point it is closer to 120 lb. empty and a bit more with fuel. The relatively heavy tail means it behaves more like GA tail draggers on the ground than most Kolbs. On grass it is still easy to handle but a little more challenging on pavement.

By way of comparison, it is less squirrelly than the PA-11 (90 hp Cub) that I got my initial tail wheel training in, but a bit more likely to swap ends than the RAN S6 tail dragger that I used to fly. It is not hard to handle but you should have some REAL taildragger experience before going from a short leg Kolb to an SS on pavement.

In the air, it has wonderfully light controls and quick aileron response compared to the big wing Kolbs. It does not float at all with the short (22') 110 sqft wings so when you cut power to idle it comes down right now which makes for great pinpoint touchdown. Also on the plus side, compared to big wing Kolbs, is that it has more energy for flare and less drag to kill that energy during flare.


Ok, thanks Thom. And here I was thinking I did have "real" TW time in my FS II Wink. But seriously, understood on the handling, I've heard on here on the list that the SS is more like a traditional TW plane.
If my Kolb plans come together in a few years I'll likely be doing the more docile FS II or FF, but was just curious about the SS.

Once I get the pickup paid off here in a few months I'll be a little closer to being able to make a decision....

LS


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