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jonathan(at)entry.co.za
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:24 pm Post subject: Landing gear turn around

Hi all wise ones,



I have 601XL with 183Hrs on the hobbs. I am busy  with the upgrade, and 

decided to turn the gear around, flat side forward. I  am hoping that the 

transistion to flight would be smoother, and I will be  able to hold the nose 

gear off, for longer when landing. We have many very  rough fields that we 

land on, and I have bottomed out the nose gear on  several occasions.



I believe that the latest plans call for the gear  installed this way in 

anycase. Could someone please confirm this, as my  plans are rather old. Now 

that I have turned the gear around, I tested it by  standing on the step, and 

well, now it tips onto it's tail. Now  unfortunately I did not test this, 

before turning the gear around. What I am  trying to say is, is this going to 

be a problem, as I currently have the  wings off, the prop off, and the spar 

carry thru is completely out of the  plane. All of these components are in 

front of the gear CoG.



Is there  anyone out there with the wings off, and still has the landing gear 

flat  side to the rear, that can stand on the step, to see if it tips 

backwards.  Any help would be appreciated, as I would rather put the landing 

gear back,  before I put the wings back on.



Thnx

Jonathan  Starke

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psm(at)att.net
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: Landing gear turn around

Hi Johnathan,  

   

My copy of the plans shows the flat side forward.  There is not a problem standing on the step with the engine and wings installed.  

   

I think you will find the nose a lot lighter on the ground with the gear installed this way.  

   

Paul  

Camas, WA  

Awaiting upgrade kit.  

       

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Hi all wise ones,

 

 I have 601XL with 183Hrs on the hobbs. I am busy with the upgrade, and 

 decided to turn the gear around, flat side forward. I am hoping that the 

 transistion to flight would be smoother, and I will be able to hold the nose 

 gear off, for longer when landing. We have many very rough fields that we 

 land on, and I have bottomed out the nose gear on several occasions.

 

 I believe that the latest plans call for the gear installed this way in 

 anycase. Could someone please confirm this, as my plans are rather old. Now 

 that I have turned the gear around, I tested it by standing on the step, and 

 well, now it tips onto it's tail. Now unfortunately I did not test this, 

 before turning the gear around. What I am trying to say is, is this going to 

 be a problem, as I currently have the wings off, the prop off, and the spar 

 carry thru is completely out of the plane. All of these components are in 

 front of the gear CoG.

 

 Is there anyone out there with the wings off, and still has the landing gear 

 flat side to the rear, that can stand on the step, to see if it tips 

 backwards. Any help would be appreciated, as I would rather put the landing 

 gear back, before I put the wings back on.

 

 Thnx

 Jonathan Starke  

  

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vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: Landing gear turn around

Jonathan,  

   

I have my gear flat side forward (correct according to my 2008 plan set).  

   

My wings are off at the moment. I do have the prop, O-200 and the center section in and can’t say I noticed any tipping.  

   

I can check tomorrow when I get to the hangar if you like. Can’t help with the flat side to the rear though.  

   

Cheers  

   

Peter  

Wonthaggi Australia  

http://zodiac.cpc-world.com  

   

       

From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jonathan(at)entry.co.za

 Sent: Monday, 15 February 2010 5:23 PM

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 Subject: Landing gear turn around  

  

  

     

Hi all wise ones,

 

 I have 601XL with 183Hrs on the hobbs. I am busy with the upgrade, and 

 decided to turn the gear around, flat side forward. I am hoping that the 

 transistion to flight would be smoother, and I will be able to hold the nose 

 gear off, for longer when landing. We have many very rough fields that we 

 land on, and I have bottomed out the nose gear on several occasions.

 

 I believe that the latest plans call for the gear installed this way in 

 anycase. Could someone please confirm this, as my plans are rather old. Now 

 that I have turned the gear around, I tested it by standing on the step, and 

 well, now it tips onto it's tail. Now unfortunately I did not test this, 

 before turning the gear around. What I am trying to say is, is this going to 

 be a problem, as I currently have the wings off, the prop off, and the spar 

 carry thru is completely out of the plane. All of these components are in 

 front of the gear CoG.

 

 Is there anyone out there with the wings off, and still has the landing gear 

 flat side to the rear, that can stand on the step, to see if it tips 

 backwards. Any help would be appreciated, as I would rather put the landing 

 gear back, before I put the wings back on.

 

 Thnx

 Jonathan Starke  

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jonathan(at)entry.co.za
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:52 pm Post subject: Landing gear turn around

This will be great Peter, the only difference then  will be the motor weight, I have a Rotax 912S, but if you see no tipping with  the wings off, then I should be OK. (Maybe need to go on a diet as well, but  that is another issue!)

  

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rogers_pritchard(at)yahoo
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:36 pm Post subject: Landing gear turn around

Johnathan,

  

 I have the wings, canopee & center spar out of my ac and it squated no more than 2" when I just put my 200 pounds on the step.  

  

 Roger



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From: jonathan(at)entry.co.za <jonathan(at)entry.co.za>

Subject: Landing gear turn around

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 1:23 AM



    Hi all wise ones,



I have 601XL with 183Hrs on the hobbs. I am busy with the upgrade, and 

decided to turn the gear around, flat side forward. I am hoping that the 

transistion to flight would be smoother, and I will be able to hold the nose 

gear off, for longer when landing. We have many very rough fields that we 

land on, and I have bottomed out the nose gear on several occasions.



I believe that the latest plans call for the gear installed this way in 

anycase. Could someone please confirm this, as my plans are rather old. Now 

that I have turned the gear around, I tested it by standing on the step, and 

well, now it tips onto it's tail. Now unfortunately I did not test this, 

before turning the gear around. What I am trying to say is, is this going to 

be a problem, as I currently have the wings off, the prop off, and the spar 

carry thru is completely out of the plane. All of these components are in  

front of the gear CoG.



Is there anyone out there with the wings off, and still has the landing gear 

flat side to the rear, that can stand on the step, to see if it tips 

backwards. Any help would be appreciated, as I would rather put the landing 

gear back, before I put the wings back on.



Thnx

Jonathan Starke

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jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: Landing gear turn around

Jonathan,

 

 My landing gear has the flat side facing forward, Corvair engine up front.  If two average size guys step on the boarding steps at the same time, the tail will tip down.  Otherwise, no problem.

 

 Jay Bannister

 

   

 

  

   

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: Landing gear turn around

Great news, so I should have no problems  either.

  

 Thnx

 Jonathan

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vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:01 am Post subject: Landing gear turn around

Jonathan,  

   

I jumped up and down on the step today and nothing happened. It was very stable.  

   

Have fun!  

   

Cheers  

   

Peter  

   

   

       

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This will be great Peter, the only difference then will be the motor weight, I have a Rotax 912S, but if you see no tipping with the wings off, then I should be OK. (Maybe need to go on a diet as well, but that is another issue!)  

    

   

    

Jonathan  

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Jonathan,  

   

I have my gear flat side forward (correct according to my 2008 plan set).  

   

My wings are off at the moment. I do have the prop, O-200 and the center section in and can’t say I noticed any tipping.  

   

I can check tomorrow when I get to the hangar if you like. Can’t help with the flat side to the rear though.  

   

Cheers  

   

Peter  

Wonthaggi Australia  

http://zodiac.cpc-world.com  

   

       

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 Sent: Monday, 15 February 2010 5:23 PM

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Landing gear turn around  

  

  

     

Hi all wise ones,

 

 I have 601XL with 183Hrs on the hobbs. I am busy with the upgrade, and 

 decided to turn the gear around, flat side forward. I am hoping that the 

 transistion to flight would be smoother, and I will be able to hold the nose 

 gear off, for longer when landing. We have many very rough fields that we 

 land on, and I have bottomed out the nose gear on several occasions.

 

 I believe that the latest plans call for the gear installed this way in 

 anycase. Could someone please confirm this, as my plans are rather old. Now 

 that I have turned the gear around, I tested it by standing on the step, and 

 well, now it tips onto it's tail. Now unfortunately I did not test this, 

 before turning the gear around. What I am trying to say is, is this going to 

 be a problem, as I currently have the wings off, the prop off, and the spar 

 carry thru is completely out of the plane. All of these components are in 

 front of the gear CoG.

 

 Is there anyone out there with the wings off, and still has the landing gear 

 flat side to the rear, that can stand on the step, to see if it tips 

 backwards. Any help would be appreciated, as I would rather put the landing 

 gear back, before I put the wings back on.

 

 Thnx

 Jonathan Starke  

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: Landing gear turn around

Just a minor data point - When I flew in a Factory build XL, I was specifically warned about allowing 2 people from stepping up at the same time.



In case this happens, the factory has a skid that prevents the tie-down from hitting the ground.  It looks like they expected 2 people to try to step up at the same time.



I wouldn't worry about it.



Regards,

Kevin Kinney

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