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william(at)gbta.net
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

As I was getting ready to start riveting on my top  wing skins today I found a mistake I made when drilling out my top inboard wing  skin nutplate holes on the inboard side.  On page 16-2 step 3 we are to  drill out to #19 screw holes on the inboard edge of the W-1002 inboard wing  skin.  I somehow missed one of the holes by one.  It is the hole  directly below (aft) of the center rivet line on the skin ( rivet line where the  W-1028 wing box J-stiffeners are riveted to).   The enlarged hole is  supposed to be the hole directly aft of that center rivet line.  As you can  see from the picture I messed up and drilled the second hole aft and countersunk  it for a #8 screw dimple.  

  

 Are these nutplates for the wing root  fairings?  If so,can I use a K-1000-08 nutplate here also and modify the  wing root fairing?  If not are there any other suggestions?  Looks to  me like If I start over I'll probably have to buy new skins (made the same  mistake on both wings), and ribs (since the #8 dimple countersink went into the  rib).  

  

 Any thoughts or suggestions?  I'll try Vans  tomorrow but they are closed today for Presidents day.

  

 Thanks,

 Bill

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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place

Well, if it were me, I'd put an AN426-5 or -6 (depending on the exact hole size) rivet into these "mistakes", call it a "feature", and move on.

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RV-10 QB

Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

This is a common mistake, mentioned by many. You can slightly countersink the back side of your mistake, then squeeze an AN426AD5-3 or 3.5 in there to fill the hole. Then just drill through center of rivet for correct hole size, file shop head to almost flush and you are good to go. A bit less kosher method would be to fill the hole with JB weld epoxy.  Or you can do as you propose drilling a new hole in the fairing. The rivet the hole shut method will be the least detectable, most durable.

 

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Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor # 5286
KCHD

Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:23 am Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Put one in the other wing too..  Then if anyone asks you about the

larger rivet, you can just look at them with a straight face and say,

"Didn't you get the service bulletin?  You need to go read it."  







Phil

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william(at)gbta.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:23 am Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Does anybody have maybe 4 or 5 each of AN426AD5's and  AD6's you could send me (I will pay for them)?  I will order some from Vans  but sometimes their shipping is kinda slow and I'm at the point that I need the  rivets NOW.  If so you can e-mail me off list at  william(at)gbta.net.

  

 Anyway, thanks for the help.  Better pay a little  more attention from now on.

  

 Bill 

  

  



  From: Kelly McMullen (kellym(at)aviating.com) 

 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:10 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong  place

 

This is a common mistake, mentioned by many. You can slightly  countersink the back side of your mistake, then squeeze an AN426AD5-3 or 3.5 in  there to fill the hole. Then just drill through center of rivet for correct hole  size, file shop head to almost flush and you are good to go. A bit less kosher  method would be to fill the hole with JB weld epoxy.  Or you can do as you  propose drilling a new hole in the fairing. The rivet the hole shut method will  be the least detectable, most durable.



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

If this rivet hole is in the wingwalk wing-root fairing area,

I did the same thing....it was supposed to be a single-ear

nutplate instead of double, or something like that.  Drilling

it wrong isn't good, because the fairing is already pre-drilled,

so then you'd have 2 holes next to eachother.  The way I fixed

it was fill the mis-drilled hole with JB weld for cosmetic

purposes and then re-drill and countersink the proper hole.

If the wing root fairing wasn't pre-drilled, I would have just

left it, but since the fairing is, you should just fix the hole.

I doubt there's a strength issue to having 2 holes drilled

and countersunk...but you just want the nutplate to hold.

After filling with JB weld I think I still riveted it properly.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD



Bill and Tami Britton wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   As I was getting ready to start riveting on my top wing skins today I 

 found a mistake I made when drilling out my top inboard wing skin 

 nutplate holes on the inboard side.  On page 16-2 step 3 we are to drill 

 out to #19 screw holes on the inboard edge of the W-1002 inboard wing 

 skin.  I somehow missed one of the holes by one.  It is the hole 

 directly below (aft) of the center rivet line on the skin ( rivet line 

 where the W-1028 wing box J-stiffeners are riveted to).   The enlarged 

 hole is supposed to be the hole directly aft of that center rivet line.  

 As you can see from the picture I messed up and drilled the second hole 

 aft and countersunk it for a #8 screw dimple. 

  

 Are these nutplates for the wing root fairings?  If so,can I use a 

 K-1000-08 nutplate here also and modify the wing root fairing?  If not 

 are there any other suggestions?  Looks to me like If I start over I'll 

 probably have to buy new skins (made the same mistake on both wings), 

 and ribs (since the #8 dimple countersink went into the rib). 

  

 Any thoughts or suggestions?  I'll try Vans tomorrow but they are closed 

 today for Presidents day.

  

 Thanks,

 Bill

 

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partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Bill, you got a phone number?  Should have listed it..... Need to know what length.  Call me 916-801-8402.

 Don McDonald



--- On Tue, 2/16/10, Billy & Tami Britton <william(at)gbta.net> wrote:



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From: Billy & Tami Britton <william(at)gbta.net>

Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 5:28 AM



  Does anybody have maybe 4 or 5 each of AN426AD5's and AD6's you could send me (I will pay for them)?  I will order some from Vans but sometimes their shipping is kinda slow and I'm at the point that I need the rivets NOW.  If so you can e-mail me off list at william(at)gbta.net.

  

 Anyway, thanks for the help.  Better pay a little more attention from now on.

  

 Bill 

  

  



  From: Kelly McMullen (kellym(at)aviating.com) 

 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:10 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place

 

This is a common mistake, mentioned by many. You can slightly countersink the back side of your mistake, then squeeze an AN426AD5-3 or 3.5 in there to fill the hole. Then just drill through center of rivet for correct hole size, file shop head to almost flush and you are good to go. A bit less kosher method would be to fill the hole with JB weld epoxy.  Or you can do as you propose drilling a new hole in the fairing. The rivet the hole shut method will be the least detectable, most durable.



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william(at)gbta.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  The plans call for a single ear 

nutplate instead of a double.  When I was drilling them out I automatically 

drilled the center of the three holes on all the locations.  Well, in this 

one location the forward hole was to be drilled out--not the center. 

Naturally it is countersunk for a #8 screw DIMPLE so it's a rather large 

hole there in the wrong place.  My initial intentions were to just use a 

regular K-1000-08 nutplate and forget about it until talking to Scott at 

Vans.  He informed me that the wing root fairings come pre-punched so the 

hole really needed to be moved to the correct location.

Anyhow, sounds like JB weld should be a rather quick  and easy fix.

To those of you who offered to send me rivets---Thanks a million but looks 

like for now I won't be needing them.

Tim, if you read this I might drop you an e-mail for some specific details 

if you can remember that far back.

Thanks,

Bill

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From: "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:25 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place

 	  Quote: 	

 If this rivet hole is in the wingwalk wing-root fairing area,

 I did the same thing....it was supposed to be a single-ear

 nutplate instead of double, or something like that.  Drilling

 it wrong isn't good, because the fairing is already pre-drilled,

 so then you'd have 2 holes next to eachother.  The way I fixed

 it was fill the mis-drilled hole with JB weld for cosmetic

 purposes and then re-drill and countersink the proper hole.

 If the wing root fairing wasn't pre-drilled, I would have just

 left it, but since the fairing is, you should just fix the hole.

 I doubt there's a strength issue to having 2 holes drilled

 and countersunk...but you just want the nutplate to hold.

 After filling with JB weld I think I still riveted it properly.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

 Bill and Tami Britton wrote:

> As I was getting ready to start riveting on my top wing skins today I 

> found a mistake I made when drilling out my top inboard wing skin 

> nutplate holes on the inboard side.  On page 16-2 step 3 we are to drill 

> out to #19 screw holes on the inboard edge of the W-1002 inboard wing 

> skin.  I somehow missed one of the holes by one.  It is the hole directly 

> below (aft) of the center rivet line on the skin ( rivet line where the 

> W-1028 wing box J-stiffeners are riveted to).   The enlarged hole is 

> supposed to be the hole directly aft of that center rivet line.  As you 

> can see from the picture I messed up and drilled the second hole aft and 

> countersunk it for a #8 screw dimple. Are these nutplates for the wing 

> root fairings?  If so,can I use a K-1000-08 nutplate here also and modify 

> the wing root fairing?  If not are there any other suggestions?  Looks to 

> me like If I start over I'll probably have to buy new skins (made the 

> same mistake on both wings), and ribs (since the #8 dimple countersink 

> went into the rib). Any thoughts or suggestions?  I'll try Vans tomorrow 

> but they are closed today for Presidents day.

>  Thanks,

> Bill

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

william(at)gbta.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Talked to Vans about it and his suggestion was to use  this route (the enlarged rivet mentioned below).  It looks like if I move  the hole to the correct location that the new countersink is going to overlap  the incorrect countersink in the skin.  I'm afraid this might leave a  fairly large "loose" section on the skin.  I'd like to hear from others who  have made this mistake and see how it worked out for you.

  

 Also, I need a source for AN426AD5 and AD6  rivets.

  

 Bill

  



  From: Kelly McMullen (kellym(at)aviating.com) 

 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:10 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong  place

 

This is a common mistake, mentioned by many. You can slightly  countersink the back side of your mistake, then squeeze an AN426AD5-3 or 3.5 in  there to fill the hole. Then just drill through center of rivet for correct hole  size, file shop head to almost flush and you are good to go. A bit less kosher  method would be to fill the hole with JB weld epoxy.  Or you can do as you  propose drilling a new hole in the fairing. The rivet the hole shut method will  be the least detectable, most durable.



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pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Order them from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty and they will ship today.  

   

Jack  Phillips  

#40610  

Raleigh, NC  

         

  

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 Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:28 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place  

  

     

Does anybody have maybe 4 or 5 each of AN426AD5's and AD6's you could send me (I will pay for them)?  I will order some from Vans but sometimes their shipping is kinda slow and I'm at the point that I need the rivets NOW.  If so you can e-mail me off list at william(at)gbta.net.  

    

   

    

Anyway, thanks for the help.  Better pay a little more attention from now on.  

    

   

    

Bill   

    

   

      

   

      

From: Kelly McMullen (kellym(at)aviating.com)   

    

Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:10 PM  

    

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Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place  

  

  

    

   

  



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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Any airline mechanic or shop that works on twins and up. I found AD5

fit perfectly. Formed up nicely with my squeezer set for bare minimum

shop head remaining. It does hold the skins together until you get

around to doing the nutplate. IIRC, I don't think I did the

countersink in new location until after riveting the nutplate in

place.



On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Billy & Tami Britton <william(at)gbta.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Talked to Vans about it and his suggestion was to use this route (the

 enlarged rivet mentioned below).  It looks like if I move the hole to the

 correct location that the new countersink is going to overlap the incorrect

 countersink in the skin.  I'm afraid this might leave a fairly large "loose"

 section on the skin.  I'd like to hear from others who have made this

 mistake and see how it worked out for you.



 Also, I need a source for AN426AD5 and AD6 rivets.



 Bill

 From: Kelly McMullen

 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:10 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place



 This is a common mistake, mentioned by many. You can slightly countersink

 the back side of your mistake, then squeeze an AN426AD5-3 or 3.5 in there to

 fill the hole. Then just drill through center of rivet for correct hole

 size, file shop head to almost flush and you are good to go. A bit less

 kosher method would be to fill the hole with JB weld epoxy.  Or you can do

 as you propose drilling a new hole in the fairing. The rivet the hole shut

 method will be the least detectable, most durable.



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 href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com

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A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor
KCHD

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Interestingly, this is one of the "gotchas" I have listed on my site:

http://www.myrv10.com/tips/gotchas.html

Included is even a picture of the offending location.  I put it there

in 2005 or maybe it was 2004. 



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD



Billy & Tami Britton wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 This is exactly what I'm talking about.  The plans call for a single ear 

 nutplate instead of a double.  When I was drilling them out I 

 automatically drilled the center of the three holes on all the 

 locations.  Well, in this one location the forward hole was to be 

 drilled out--not the center. Naturally it is countersunk for a #8 screw 

 DIMPLE so it's a rather large hole there in the wrong place.  My initial 

 intentions were to just use a regular K-1000-08 nutplate and forget 

 about it until talking to Scott at Vans.  He informed me that the wing 

 root fairings come pre-punched so the hole really needed to be moved to 

 the correct location.

 

 Anyhow, sounds like JB weld should be a rather quick  and easy fix.

 

 To those of you who offered to send me rivets---Thanks a million but 

 looks like for now I won't be needing them.

 

 Tim, if you read this I might drop you an e-mail for some specific 

 details if you can remember that far back.

 

 Thanks,

 Bill

 

 

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 From: "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

 Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:25 PM

 To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place

 

> 

>

> If this rivet hole is in the wingwalk wing-root fairing area,

> I did the same thing....it was supposed to be a single-ear

> nutplate instead of double, or something like that.  Drilling

> it wrong isn't good, because the fairing is already pre-drilled,

> so then you'd have 2 holes next to eachother.  The way I fixed

> it was fill the mis-drilled hole with JB weld for cosmetic

> purposes and then re-drill and countersink the proper hole.

> If the wing root fairing wasn't pre-drilled, I would have just

> left it, but since the fairing is, you should just fix the hole.

> I doubt there's a strength issue to having 2 holes drilled

> and countersunk...but you just want the nutplate to hold.

> After filling with JB weld I think I still riveted it properly.

>

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

>

> Bill and Tami Britton wrote:

>> As I was getting ready to start riveting on my top wing skins today I 

>> found a mistake I made when drilling out my top inboard wing skin 

>> nutplate holes on the inboard side.  On page 16-2 step 3 we are to 

>> drill out to #19 screw holes on the inboard edge of the W-1002 

>> inboard wing skin.  I somehow missed one of the holes by one.  It is 

>> the hole directly below (aft) of the center rivet line on the skin ( 

>> rivet line where the W-1028 wing box J-stiffeners are riveted to).   

>> The enlarged hole is supposed to be the hole directly aft of that 

>> center rivet line.  As you can see from the picture I messed up and 

>> drilled the second hole aft and countersunk it for a #8 screw dimple. 

>> Are these nutplates for the wing root fairings?  If so,can I use a 

>> K-1000-08 nutplate here also and modify the wing root fairing?  If 

>> not are there any other suggestions?  Looks to me like If I start 

>> over I'll probably have to buy new skins (made the same mistake on 

>> both wings), and ribs (since the #8 dimple countersink went into the 

>> rib). Any thoughts or suggestions?  I'll try Vans tomorrow but they 

>> are closed today for Presidents day.

>>  Thanks,

>> Bill

>>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>

>

ricksked(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Now Kelly may have a good source but some builders may be far from an A&P hack shop..So  I'm advising off the cuff but check with Wicks or Aircraft. Spruce....you might have to buy like an 1/8th pound but it will be pretty inexpensive...

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T



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40950(at)rv10.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Bill,



I have an assortment of 426AD5s and 6s, way more than I'll ever need so send me an address at the below email and I'll drop a few in the mail. No charge. I'll need something some day maybe you can help out.



Tom Koelzer

#40950 Empennage Attach



40950(at)rv10.net



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On Feb 16, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Billy & Tami Britton wrote:



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		   Talked to Vans about it and his suggestion was to use this route (the enlarged rivet mentioned below).  It looks like if I move the hole to the correct location that the new countersink is going to overlap the incorrect countersink in the skin.  I'm afraid this might leave a fairly large "loose" section on the skin.  I'd like to hear from others who have made this mistake and see how it worked out for you.

  

 Also, I need a source for AN426AD5 and AD6 rivets.

  

 Bill

 

 From: Kelly McMullen

 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:10 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place

 

 

 This is a common mistake, mentioned by many. You can slightly countersink the back side of your mistake, then squeeze an AN426AD5-3 or 3.5 in there to fill the hole. Then just drill through center of rivet for correct hole size, file shop head to almost flush and you are good to go. A bit less kosher method would be to fill the hole with JB weld epoxy.  Or you can do as you propose drilling a new hole in the fairing. The rivet the hole shut method will be the least detectable, most durable.

 

 

 

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william(at)gbta.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Thanks Tim.  I'll definitely be checking out your "gotchas" a little closer 

now.   Thanks for the e-mail also.  Now that the excitement and worry about 

my latest mistake is gone I can get back to building.   I do have to say 

that it makes me feel a little better that "the man" made the same mistake I 

did.  LOL!!!!!  Just kidding Tim!!

Thanks again to everybody who replied.   I usually only monitor this list 

but it really comes in handy when you need it.



Bill



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From: "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:16 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Interestingly, this is one of the "gotchas" I have listed on my site:

 http://www.myrv10.com/tips/gotchas.html

 Included is even a picture of the offending location.  I put it there

 in 2005 or maybe it was 2004. 



 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD



 Billy & Tami Britton wrote:

> 

> <william(at)gbta.net>

>

> This is exactly what I'm talking about.  The plans call for a single ear 

> nutplate instead of a double.  When I was drilling them out I 

> automatically drilled the center of the three holes on all the locations. 

> Well, in this one location the forward hole was to be drilled out--not 

> the center. Naturally it is countersunk for a #8 screw DIMPLE so it's a 

> rather large hole there in the wrong place.  My initial intentions were 

> to just use a regular K-1000-08 nutplate and forget about it until 

> talking to Scott at Vans.  He informed me that the wing root fairings 

> come pre-punched so the hole really needed to be moved to the correct 

> location.

>

> Anyhow, sounds like JB weld should be a rather quick  and easy fix.

>

> To those of you who offered to send me rivets---Thanks a million but 

> looks like for now I won't be needing them.

>

> Tim, if you read this I might drop you an e-mail for some specific 

> details if you can remember that far back.

>

> Thanks,

> Bill

> --------------------------------------------------

> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:25 PM

> To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

> Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place

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>> 

>>

>> If this rivet hole is in the wingwalk wing-root fairing area,

>> I did the same thing....it was supposed to be a single-ear

>> nutplate instead of double, or something like that.  Drilling

>> it wrong isn't good, because the fairing is already pre-drilled,

>> so then you'd have 2 holes next to eachother.  The way I fixed

>> it was fill the mis-drilled hole with JB weld for cosmetic

>> purposes and then re-drill and countersink the proper hole.

>> If the wing root fairing wasn't pre-drilled, I would have just

>> left it, but since the fairing is, you should just fix the hole.

>> I doubt there's a strength issue to having 2 holes drilled

>> and countersunk...but you just want the nutplate to hold.

>> After filling with JB weld I think I still riveted it properly.

>>

>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

>>

>>

>>

>> Bill and Tami Britton wrote:

>>> As I was getting ready to start riveting on my top wing skins today I 

>>> found a mistake I made when drilling out my top inboard wing skin 

>>> nutplate holes on the inboard side.  On page 16-2 step 3 we are to 

>>> drill out to #19 screw holes on the inboard edge of the W-1002 inboard 

>>> wing skin.  I somehow missed one of the holes by one.  It is the hole 

>>> directly below (aft) of the center rivet line on the skin ( rivet line 

>>> where the W-1028 wing box J-stiffeners are riveted to).   The enlarged 

>>> hole is supposed to be the hole directly aft of that center rivet line. 

>>> As you can see from the picture I messed up and drilled the second hole 

>>> aft and countersunk it for a #8 screw dimple. Are these nutplates for 

>>> the wing root fairings?  If so,can I use a K-1000-08 nutplate here also 

>>> and modify the wing root fairing?  If not are there any other 

>>> suggestions?  Looks to me like If I start over I'll probably have to 

>>> buy new skins (made the same mistake on both wings), and ribs (since 

>>> the #8 dimple countersink went into the rib). Any thoughts or 

>>> suggestions?  I'll try Vans tomorrow but they are closed today for 

>>> Presidents day.

>>>  Thanks,

>>> Bill

>>>

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>>>

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partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
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Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: Drilled hole in wrong place

Just so you guys know..... I have most of the sizes of rivets... 1 each, 100 each, 426's or 470... 3's 4's 5's 6's... so if it comes down to ordering a pound or 5 pounds, send me an email.

 Don McDonald



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From: ricksked(at)cox.net <ricksked(at)cox.net>

Subject: Re: Drilled hole in wrong place

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 7:45 PM



 --> RV10-List message posted by: ricksked(at)cox.net (ricksked(at)cox.net)



Now Kelly may have a good source but some builders may be far from an A&P hack shop..So  I'm advising off the cuff but check with Wicks or Aircraft. Spruce....you might have to buy like an 1/8th pound but it will be pretty inexpensive...

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