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AirMike



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Static Discharge Wicks Reply with quote

I have been noticing some static in my radio (SL30) lately and I wonder if the lack of any static wicks (I had several on my C182) on the RV10 might contribute to radio interference. I would like to know if anyone on this blog has installed static wicks? If you put them on - where were they installed and how many? What their experience has been and which ones they purchased. Spruce wants $52, but an outfit called Sky Geeks wants only $13-15 for similar static wicks?

Since I am getting close to paint time - I'd appreciate input.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Static Discharge Wicks Reply with quote

The kit I bought second hand had static wicks installed on the elevator and
I think theres one or two on the rudder also. As I'm sure you know, for the
static wicks to work properly you need to bond the control surfaces to the
rest of the airframe. At the point in the build where I took over I have
not installed any more wicks--yet. I am bonding the control surfaces to the
airframe though that way if I think I need static wicks--if and when the
plane ever flies--I can easily install the wicks later.

Bill

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I have been noticing some static in my radio (SL30) lately and I wonder if
the lack of any static wicks (I had several on my C182) on the RV10 might
contribute to radio interference. I would like to know if anyone on this
blog has installed static wicks? If you put them on - where were they
installed and how many? What their experience has been and which ones they
purchased. Spruce wants $52, but an outfit called Sky Geeks wants only
$13-15 for similar static wicks?

Since I am getting close to paint time - I'd appreciate input.

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mouser



Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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Location: Los Alamos, NM

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Static Discharge Wicks Reply with quote

I am installing static wicks as I go. The Dayton-Granger people have published a document showing where they recommend installing wicks for the RV-10. Here is a copy: http://mouser.org/projects/rv-10/dayton-granger-rv10.png

They recommend two on each elevator, two on the rudder, and three on each wing. I bought one of the cheap wicks from skygeek but wasn't impressed with the quality, and went instead with the considerably more expensive (and very impressive build quality) DG16165 wicks (also from skygeek, $42 each, cheaper than spruce).

Cheers,
-Mouser

RV-10 #40988 (tail cone)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: Static Discharge Wicks Reply with quote

If I was selling wicks, I would recommend at least twice that many for
the -10!

Actually, I have never installed any and haven't noticed a great
amount of static in radios. Has anybody started without them &
noticed a change when they added them?

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
352-427-0285

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On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:41 AM, "mouser" <mouser(at)mouser.org> wrote:

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I am installing static wicks as I go. The Dayton-Granger people
have published a document showing where they recommend installing
wicks for the RV-10. Here is a copy: http://mouser.org/projects/rv-10/dayton-granger-rv10.png

They recommend two on each elevator, two on the rudder, and three on
each wing. I bought one of the cheap wicks from skygeek but wasn't
impressed with the quality, and went instead with the considerably
more expensive (and very impressive build quality) DG16165 wicks
(also from skygeek, $42 each, cheaper than spruce).

Cheers,
-Mouser

RV-10 #40988 (tail cone)
http://mouser.org/projects/rv-10/


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Static Discharge Wicks Reply with quote

For what it's worth, I don't have an wicks on my 8A and will not put any on
my 10. I've never had static noise. If you are experiencing noise in your
radio audio, especially a modern radio like an SL-30, recommend looking
elsewhere for the noise source. Some areas to look:
1. Verify connections. Mechanical vibration tends to be the root of many
electrical problems.
2. If you have two communications antennas, see if the problem exists on
both. If not, then look at the one with the problem. For example you can
wiggle the antenna BNC connector to see if you create noise. BNCs are an
easy fix.
3. If you are using an audio panel, turn it off (default mode) and see if
the noise goes away.
4. If you have two communication radio and the noise is in one only, then
look toward the antenna, antenna line, or even radio rack connectors.
4. Change headsets.

Just some quick thoughts.
Carl

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:54 am    Post subject: Static Discharge Wicks Reply with quote

You forgot headset jacks grounded to the airframe. They should be
isolated from the airframe and have their own dedicated ground back to
the intercom or audio panel.
Linn

Carl Froehlich wrote:
[quote]

For what it's worth, I don't have an wicks on my 8A and will not put any on
my 10. I've never had static noise. If you are experiencing noise in your
radio audio, especially a modern radio like an SL-30, recommend looking
elsewhere for the noise source. Some areas to look:
1. Verify connections. Mechanical vibration tends to be the root of many
electrical problems.
2. If you have two communications antennas, see if the problem exists on
both. If not, then look at the one with the problem. For example you can
wiggle the antenna BNC connector to see if you create noise. BNCs are an
easy fix.
3. If you are using an audio panel, turn it off (default mode) and see if
the noise goes away.
4. If you have two communication radio and the noise is in one only, then
look toward the antenna, antenna line, or even radio rack connectors.
4. Change headsets.

Just some quick thoughts.


Carl

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Tim Olson



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:55 am    Post subject: Static Discharge Wicks Reply with quote

I've picked up what I am pretty sure was P-static on a couple of
IFR flights in IMC. It's only been a couple flights that I
noticed it, but both times I was in the clouds. It came across
as a kind of a rushing water sound on the radios.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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Jesse Saint wrote:
Quote:


If I was selling wicks, I would recommend at least twice that many for
the -10!

Actually, I have never installed any and haven't noticed a great amount
of static in radios. Has anybody started without them & noticed a
change when they added them?

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
352-427-0285

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On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:41 AM, "mouser" <mouser(at)mouser.org> wrote:

>
>
> I am installing static wicks as I go. The Dayton-Granger people have
> published a document showing where they recommend installing wicks for
> the RV-10. Here is a copy:
> http://mouser.org/projects/rv-10/dayton-granger-rv10.png
>
> They recommend two on each elevator, two on the rudder, and three on
> each wing. I bought one of the cheap wicks from skygeek but wasn't
> impressed with the quality, and went instead with the considerably
> more expensive (and very impressive build quality) DG16165 wicks (also
> from skygeek, $42 each, cheaper than spruce).
>
> Cheers,
> -Mouser
>
> RV-10 #40988 (tail cone)
> http://mouser.org/projects/rv-10/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287936#287936
>
>






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