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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:30 pm Post subject: 1975 AA1B damage

We had a little wind storm last night, and the airplane next to mine

got away.  It totaled the plane behind me, but only did some (hopefully)

minor damage to my plane (1975 AA1B).



	The left elevator plastic tip has a crack and small piece taken out of

the aft, left edge.



	The trim tab on the rudder was hit and bent over, and a couple of

shallow dents are in the right side of the rudder.



	The tail tie down ring is bent as well as some of the area around it.



	The right wing tie down ring is slightly bent.



	I have pictures on my website at

<http://deej.net/yankee/damage/>



	At a minimum I'll have to replace the left elevator tip and the trim

tab on the rudder.  I may possibly have to replace the rudder and parts

near the tail tie down area.  We haven't opened it up yet to get a good

look inside.



	Would any of you be willing to share your expertise on what other

possible damage that we should be looking for?



Thanks,



-Dj



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GrummanDude

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Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: 1975 AA1B damage

That looks like a pretty nasty wind.   

 

  If it were mine, I'd buy the AA1 that Fletcher is selling and replace all the damaged parts; including the delaminating elevator.  

 

  

 Cliff knows a lot about the 2-seater.  He might even have some good leads on parts.  Try Ken Blackman as well; he does a lot of 2-seaters.  

  

 

  Where are you that you had so much wind?  Lancaster (Sandblaster) was very windy.  I landed a tail-wheel plane in a 60 knot wind there one day.  I landed on the numbers and my roll out was about 10 feet.  Tail never came down.  

  

 

  Gary

  

 

  

 

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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: 1975 AA1B damage

On 2/27/2010 11:46 AM, teamgrumman(at)aol.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   If it were mine, I'd buy the AA1 that Fletcher is selling and replace

 all the damaged parts; including the delaminating elevator.  


	




Hi Gary,

	I don't think there is that much damage.  On the surface it looks like

I just need to replace the plastic elevator tip, and the rudder trim

tab, or at worst the whole rudder, and possibly some of the

reinforcement around the tail tie down ring.  All of the damage should

be covered by insurance, but unless there is significant hidden damage I

can't see why it would be necessary to buy another whole plane for parts.



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 Cliff knows a lot about the 2-seater.  He might even have some good

 leads on parts.  Try Ken Blackman as well; he does a lot of 2-seaters.  


	


	Thanks!



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 Where are you that you had so much wind?  


	


	KIWI (Wiscasset, Maine).  Off shore sensors hit 90mph that night (I'm

told), and KIWI is right off the ocean.  I'm guessing we had at least 60

- 70 mph winds at the airport.



-Dj



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flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: 1975 AA1B damage

Since Insurance is paying the bill I'd replace the rudder as you won't be 

able to fix the dent in it without showing most likely.  You may need a 

doubler inside the tail cone, depending on how badly the metal is torn and 

bent from the eye.  Take the wingtips off and see what damage there is to 

the wing tie down eye attachments.  They are attached with a small bracket 

and nutplate that can be replaced.  Also the points David made about the 

ailerons is important.  The plane was obviously pulling against the ropes 

very hard.



Cliff

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dsleepy47

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: 1975 AA1B damage

The aft fuselage bulkhead is primary structure so make sure the tail tie down repair is performed with that in mind, see: http://www.bondline.org/wiki/Tail_Tiedown_Repair



Deems

AA1B N1491R



[quote] From: flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com

 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: 1975 AA1B damage

 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:59:48 -0800

 

 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>

 

 Since Insurance is paying the bill I'd replace the rudder as you won't be 

 able to fix the dent in it without showing most likely.  You may need a 

 doubler inside the tail cone, depending on how badly the metal is torn and 

 bent from the eye.  Take the wingtips off and see what damage there is to 

 the wing tie down eye attachments.  They are attached with a small bracket 

 and nutplate that can be replaced.  Also the points David made about the 

 ailerons is important.  The plane was obviously pulling against the ropes 

 very hard.

 

 Cliff

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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: 1975 AA1B damage

On 2/27/2010 9:36 PM, Deems Herring wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   The aft fuselage bulkhead is primary structure so make sure the tail tie

 down repair is performed with that in mind, see:

 http://www.bondline.org/wiki/Tail_Tiedown_Repair


	




	Thanks!  That is an excellent reference.



-Dj



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GrummanDude

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: 1975 AA1B damage

Maine is one of only 4 sates I haven't visited.  Maybe this year after the convention.

 

  

 

 

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