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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:46 pm Post subject: "You can't fight city hall" |
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I'am in,Ill help.JoeN101HD601XL
From: aprazer <aprazer(at)cableone.net>
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 11:06:15 PM
Subject: "You can't fight city hall"
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "aprazer" <aprazer(at)cableone.net (aprazer(at)cableone.net)>
Ladies and Gents,
Reading everyone's comments about what should be done to put the XLs/650s on sound footing and how it should be done -- shows great concern.
I think that you all will agree with me that the Heintzs have performed to the utmost of their ability! It sounds like these tasks, litigation, etc., has strained their financial position.
Now the FAA is asking for more blood?
There is an old adage that states "You can't fight city hall" -- the FAA being city hall.
We need someone with lots of horsepower and expertise to advise and ramrod this project.
He/she won't be cheap!
Also, I agree that in order to placate the FAA another airframe will have to be destroyed in testing.
The successful outcome of this project will benefit us all because we'll have product that can be flown, sold without a heavy financial loss and liability, plus the Heintzs will remain in business to support us.
There are many 601/650 drivers that have offered, on this site as well as the Zenith Aero, monetary support and willingness to act as gophers in getting this problem resolved!
This is going to cost a lot of money!
I, for one, will throw my hat in the ring to volunteer as a gopher (if needed) and will support the cause financially.
Mack Kreizenbeck
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The poh-oh-unemployed farm boy from Idaho
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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:24 am Post subject: "You can't fight city hall" |
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Altho I am not a 601/650 XL builder, I am a happy Zenith customer. Personally I have had doubts about the strength of the XL airframe since the Yuba City incident. The others could be explained away as possible pilot error... With that said the Heintz clan has now gone the extra mile to try to restore the faith of builders and future builders of the XL series. If they are really confident in the original design and now over the top confident in the modified design the ultimate way to showcase that is a publicity 'stunt' kinda like they did building a 701 at an airshow and flew it that same week..... What I propose is something similar....
Get a bunch of us builder together at Oshkosh, we pitch in and buy a wing and fuselage kit, have it delivered to the Zenith booth, spend a few days assembling it in front of the crowds, and then flip it over and load it up with sandbags to destruction. If it holds up past the design limit that will put to rest all concerns and Zenith will get a ton of free publicity out of it. I for one will chip in for my share and I will attend Osh to help in the build. The guys and gals at Zenith really need a shot in the arm to get them back on the road to viability...
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Ben Haas
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Ben Haas
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Larry Webber
Joined: 05 Jun 2008
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Location: West Kingston Rhode Island
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: "You can't fight city hall" |
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Well said Ben you can count me in !!!!
Larry Webber 601xl/corvair chugger/Rhode Island
From: n801bh(at)netzero.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:30:09 +0000
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: "You can't fight city hall"
Altho I am not a 601/650 XL builder, I am a happy Zenith customer. Personally I have had doubts about the strength of the XL airframe since the Yuba City incident. The others could be explained away as possible pilot error.. With that said the Heintz clan has now gone the extra mile to try to restore the faith of builders and future builders of the XL series. If they are really confident in the original design and now over the top confident in the modified design the ultimate way to showcase that is a publicity 'stunt' kinda like they did building a 701 at an airshow and flew it that same week..... What I propose is something similar....
Get a bunch of us builder together at Oshkosh, we pitch in and buy a wing and fuselage kit, have it delivered to the Zenith booth, spend a few days assembling it in front of the crowds, and then flip it over and load it up with sandbags to destruction. If it holds up past the design limit that will put to rest all concerns and Zenith will get a ton of free publicity out of it. I for one will chip in for my share and I will attend Osh to help in the build. The guys and gals at Zenith really need a shot in the arm to get them back on the road to viability...
Comments ????
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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