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Louie928

Joined: 15 Nov 2009
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Location: Mosier, OR USA

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron balance weights

Tire shops have used wheel weights that can be melted. It isn't pure lead and has a few % of antimony in it to increase hardness.

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John Bolding

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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: Aileron balance weights

Another spot is a plumbing supply outlet



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601RX

Joined: 28 Oct 2009
Posts: 8
Location: AL

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron balance weights

I thought that lead could cause corrosion on aluminum?

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Louie928

Joined: 15 Nov 2009
Posts: 32
Location: Mosier, OR USA

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron balance weights

 	  601RX wrote: 	
		  I thought that lead could cause corrosion on aluminum? 	


I don't think lead and aluminum together directly corrode, but contaminants and water could get between the lead and bare aluminum and cause a problem.

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dalemed

Joined: 25 Dec 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:19 am Post subject: Re: Aileron balance weights

What's used to plug the tubing before pouring the molten lead in?

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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: Aileron balance weights

my A&P used a mold made from aluminum. he  pluged the end of the mold with clay.after it cooled , he used a file  to

 make it fit in the tube. He then drilled through  the holes in

 the tubing and added the weights.. I only gained  21lbs with 

 the upgrade. the weight a balance was in the center  of gravity. I made two flights tuesday and am happy with the results. before ,in  a turn, i could see the outer panel of the wing flexing a little bit, but not  now. very solid..I feel much

 more confident in the airplane now. After 60 years  of flying,

 you need to feel confident,and now I  do.

  

 paul baker  601 "T" model.. ha ha  

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dalemed

Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Posts: 46

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Aileron balance weights

 	  pbaker4(at)windstream.net wrote: 	
		  my A&P used a mold made from aluminum. he  pluged the end of the mold with clay.after it cooled , he used a file  to

 make it fit in the tube. He then drilled through  the holes in

 the tubing and added the weights.. I only gained  21lbs with 

 the upgrade. the weight a balance was in the center  of gravity. I made two flights tuesday and am happy with the results. before ,in  a turn, i could see the outer panel of the wing flexing a little bit, but not  now. very solid..I feel much

 more confident in the airplane now. After 60 years  of flying,

 you need to feel confident,and now I  do.

  

 paul baker  601 "T" model.. ha ha  	




Thanks.  That makes sense.  I was thinking you poured the molten lead into the balance tube.



Dale

Building CH650B

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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: Aileron balance weights

Yes, probably your great grand children will need to repaint  the part...  If gasoline is still available to fly your airplane     



Gary Gower.



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I thought that lead could cause corrosion on aluminum?



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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: Aileron balance weights

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mhubel

Joined: 05 Sep 2009
Posts: 141

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:52 am Post subject: Aileron balance weights

Paul

     Do you have any idea how long the led weight was? My calculation 

shows that it would need to be about 10 inches long to fit inside the 

tubes that Zenith supplied. This puts the CG of the weight closer to the 

hinge and thus increases the total amount of weight required slightly. 

Not a big deal but if you could find out how about long the led slug was 

it would help in doing the same thing again.

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:30 am Post subject: Aileron balance weights

Mark

     the lead in the tube only goes  in about 6'.We added a few weights then on the out side. The hole in the rear  spar was enlarged just enough to clear the weights on the outside.This  is  at the end of the wing and does not carry much weight so it is not weakened .In  the future if I need to 

 service the balance or remove the alerion"excuse  the spelling" .

  

  

 paul baker -601 flying again and enjoying every  minute

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mhubel

Joined: 05 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: Aileron balance weights

Paul,

     Given your experience, I think I may increase the length of the led section a little and I may avoid the need for external side weights.

 

 On 3/26/2010 8:29 AM, paul baker wrote: [quote]            Mark

       the lead in the tube only goes in about 6'.We added a few weights then on the out side. The hole in the rear spar was enlarged just enough to clear the weights on the outside.This  is at the end of the wing and does not carry much weight so it is not weakened .In the future if I need to 

   service the balance or remove the alerion"excuse the spelling" .

    

    

   paul baker -601 flying again and enjoying every minute

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