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cjay

Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Posts: 53

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject: approach speed

I've started putting my POH together and I saw that there seems to be a small range of recommended approach speeds.  Most seem to be on the 65-70 kias while some are on the higher end of 75-80 kias.  



Anyone care to shed some light on your approach (pun intended).

cjay

Ron.McGann(at)ausawd.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: approach speed

G'day cjay,



Base (at) 85, Final (at) 75 over the fence (at) 70 (kias) is typical for me.  Short fields are about 5 kias slower (but beware the sink rate).



Cheers,

Ron

VH-XRM flying in Oz



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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: approach speed

Below 70 and above 68 has treated me well for the first 100 hours. Very

easy to land this plane only feeling the mains spinning in their pants.

Stick in your crotch till all authority is lost and down the nose

touches. End a flight with a landing like that and the first time PAX

think you are Chuck Yeager.  I am going to try to nudge my over the

fence speeds down 1-2 knots now to reduce run out. The Hartzell BA prop

generates a fair amount of thrust at idle.

YMMV,

Robin  



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coop85(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: approach speed

I shoot for about 80 knots to lower the flaps approaching base and then

75ish knots base and final bleeding down to 658-70 over the threshold.  Too

fast and this thing will float big time, too slow and the speed will drop

quickly and surprise you if you don't carry some power end game.  



FWIW I like to be a little on the slower side with some power as it seems to

make the flare and smooth touchdown more predictable.  The times I've been

most surprised are being below 70, idle power and need to make a slightly

aggressive flare due to winds, etc.  I'm amazed and the energy bleed when

just above stall in this thing.



I suspect you'll get a range of answers and with everyone having an equally

diverse range of experience and techniques I recommend you try several

options and see what you are comfortable with.



Marcus



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Jim Combs

Joined: 24 Jan 2010
Posts: 140
Location: Lexington, Ky

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: approach speed

If I am light (one or two people and short runway), 65 to 70 results in nice approach with very short float and rollout.  If I have a full load and longer runway (Usually with fast traffic), I will use 75 - 80.



Jim C (N312F - 150 hours)

 

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 I've started putting my POH together and I saw that there seems to be a small range of recommended approach speeds.  Most seem to be on the 65-70 kias while some are on the higher end of 75-80 kias.

 

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robertbrunk(at)mac.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject: approach speed

i agree with these numbers. robert

On Mar 7, 2010, at 4:36 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:



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 G'day cjay,



 Base (at) 85, Final (at) 75 over the fence (at) 70 (kias) is typical for me.   

 Short fields are about 5 kias slower (but beware the sink rate).



 Cheers,

 Ron

 VH-XRM flying in Oz



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: approach speed

I second this.  Keeping speeds up a little when heavy is important, especially if you have a long runway.  If you cross the fence much over 70 otherwise you will float a ways.  It usually sets down just under 60.



Jesse SaintSaint Aviation

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On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



[quote]If I am light (one or two people and short runway), 65 to 70 results in nice approach with very short float and rollout.  If I have a full load and longer runway (Usually with fast traffic), I will use 75 - 80.



Jim C (N312F - 150 hours)

 

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 I've started putting my POH together and I saw that there seems to be a small range of recommended approach speeds.  Most seem to be on the 65-70 kias while some are on the higher end of 75-80 kias.

 

 Anyone care to shed some light on your approach (pun intended).

 

 

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ricksked(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: approach speed

90 downwind 80 base 70 final in knots that is I found controlling the  

decent and flare with the throttle using the AOA is very cool takes a  

bit of learning the technique but when the Mains just start spinning  

like Robin says and holding off the nose till the tail stops flying is  

the bomb.

Especially when the tower says nice landing I also use full flaps  

unless a strong xwind, even then this is the easiest plane ever in a  

xwind when using the methods I was taught and read about The rudder is  

very good and has plenty of authority



Rick



On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:36 PM, "McGann, Ron" <Ron.McGann(at)ausawd.com> wrote:



[quote] 



 G'day cjay,



 Base (at) 85, Final (at) 75 over the fence (at) 70 (kias) is typical for me.   

 Short fields are about 5 kias slower (but beware the sink rate).



 Cheers,

 Ron

 VH-XRM flying in Oz



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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: approach speed

Across the numbers between 65-70. But don't underestimate the part about carrying a little power into the flare, blowing some extra air over the elevator has a BIG effect on how this thing lands. Took me a while to figure that out.

 

 Deems Davis

 N519PJ

 www.deemsrv10.com

 

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I've started putting my POH together and I saw that there seems to be a small range of recommended approach speeds.  Most seem to be on the 65-70 kias while some are on the higher end of 75-80 kias.  



Anyone care to shed some light on your approach (pun intended).

cjay





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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: approach speed

Well, this may be the only flying characteristics carried over from the 

Maule... that is, a little power makes the flare work on a slow approach 

and the best approach speed is around 65 (mph).  I'm so looking forward 

to it.



Bill

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Deems Davis wrote:

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		   Across the numbers between 65-70. But don't underestimate the part 

 about carrying a little power into the flare, blowing some extra air 

 over the elevator has a BIG effect on how this thing lands. Took me a 

 while to figure that out.



 Deems Davis

 N519PJ

 www.deemsrv10.com

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robertbrunk(at)mac.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:37 am Post subject: approach speed

i agree . i fly these numbers. robert

On Mar 7, 2010, at 4:36 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:



[quote] 



 G'day cjay,



 Base (at) 85, Final (at) 75 over the fence (at) 70 (kias) is typical for me.   

 Short fields are about 5 kias slower (but beware the sink rate).



 Cheers,

 Ron

 VH-XRM flying in Oz



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