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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: Fuel situation

Yesterday, when flying with 5 gallons (plus) of fuel in each  

tank....just added the fuel before the flight....I noticed that the  

clear tygon vent hose up to the right wing-tank was void of fuel.  

This has happened to me before, and it usually means I haven't been  

paying attention and I ran low on fuel. I usually just bank to the  

left a bit, and pull back on the stick a bit, and head for the  

nearest fuel supply. But this time it was different.....the fuel  

wasn't filling the clear vent line like I have seen on *numerous*  

occasions. And I couldn't see a high fuel reading in the sight gauge  

on the right tank, which I should be able to see given that I was  

banking left. When I looked at the left tank sight gauge, it showed a  

very high fuel reading, which was strange because banking left should  

cause that side to read low. Well, I was only 13 minutes from home,  

and the low fuel warning light hadn't come on yet, so I knew I had  

enough fuel to make it home even if it did....the header tank holding  

at least 15 minutes worth of fuel after that light comes on in my  

system. I first thought that I had forgotten to replace the cap on  

the right tank, but trying to pull myself up by the "grab bars" in  

the cabin wouldn't allow me to see the caps, so I gave up on that idea.



Well, I made it with room to spare, and got out and saw the LEFT tank  

cap was gone....I found it on the take-off point on the runway. I had  

become distracted talking to a farmer who was visiting, and forgot  

that cap when I had added the fuel. What I surmised happened was that  

the air being forced into the right cap pressure tube/vent had forced  

the fuel out of the fuel outlet, down and through the header tank,  

and up into the left-side fuel tank, which, with no gas cap, had no  

air pressure acting on it from above, ( and in fact probably had a  

partial vacuum acting on it) so it was an easy matter for the fuel  

from the right-side tank to be pushed into it. I also imagined that  

if I had filled both tanks, and left the cap off one, that for a  

while air passing over the open tank might siphon fuel out,  

especially with a constant feed from the other tank. Probably the  

fuel would siphon only for a short time, because eventually the fuel  

level would drop to a point where the siphon would be broken and fuel  

would no longer be lifted by the air passing over the big hole.



After pushing the plane back into the hangar, to its' level resting  

spot, I closed both down valves, and looked into the tanks. The left  

tank showed full within about 1-1/2" from the top, and the right one  

showed nearly bone empty. About an hour later, after opening both  

down valves, the tank levels had evened out, and the sight gauges  

showed about 5 gallons in each tank. These sight gauges are only  

accurate at flight level, so the actual reading was not accurate, but  

the comparison between the tank levels was.

Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: Fuel situation

Good report, Lynn.  Similar situation happened to me, however I replaced the 

cap, but didn't get both tangs locked under the lip which caused what 

happened to you.  Don't feel bad though.  It's happened to many others here 

on this list.  Some have actually lost their cap in flight, never to be 

found again.

It became one of my "check it twice" items.

Thanks for sharing.

Deke



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:21 am Post subject: Fuel situation

You know what's strange about it....I was telling my neighbor about  

it, and he wondered why the fuel in the left tank didn't just spew  

out the open hole when I was banking the plane left to get the fuel  

to flow to the left rear corner of the right tank. The only thing I  

can think of is that the air blowing over the open hole sort of  

"sheared" over the hole and maybe prevented the.....what I would  

think would be...gushing of the fuel out of that open hole.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:16 PM, fox5flyer wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <fox5flyer(at)idealwifi.net>



 Good report, Lynn.  Similar situation happened to me, however I  

 replaced the cap, but didn't get both tangs locked under the lip  

 which caused what happened to you.  Don't feel bad though.  It's  

 happened to many others here on this list.  Some have actually lost  

 their cap in flight, never to be found again.

 It became one of my "check it twice" items.

 Thanks for sharing.

 Deke

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

7suds(at)Chartermi.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:46 am Post subject: Fuel situation

Lynn,

Could it be that you were in a coordinated 1 G turn and the same centrifugal

force that keep you centered in your seat kept the fuel in the bottom of the

tank?



Lloyd C

Northern Mi

Mod 5 912ul IVO IFA



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:51 am Post subject: Fuel situation

My flight instructor would doubt that I'm EVER coordinated, Lloyd,  

but you might have a point. However, I wasn't turning, just going  

straight, so it doesn't seem like that would apply, but I could be  

wrong.

I certainly didn't lose much fuel, as that flight lasted 0.8 hours,  

and involved two take-offs and landings. After assessing the  

situation on the ground afterwards, I was amazed at how much fuel was  

transferred to the left tank, and how much there was left, totally,  

between the two tanks after the settling/leveling period.



The scientist in me wants to try it again with an observer plane, but  

my skivvies aren't back from the laundry yet. : )



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

On Mar 19, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:



[quote] 

 <7suds(at)chartermi.net>



 Lynn,

 Could it be that you were in a coordinated 1 G turn and the same  

 centrifugal

 force that keep you centered in your seat kept the fuel in the  

 bottom of the

 tank?



 Lloyd C

 Northern Mi

 Mod 5 912ul IVO IFA



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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Dick Maddux

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Posts: 516
Location: Milton, Fl

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:50 am Post subject: Fuel situation

Lynn,

  You bring up a good point ....distraction. By talking with the farmer you lost your train of thought and forgot to fasten the gas cap (lucky you found it) I did a similar thing.

  A friend of mine was talking to me when I had just replaced my spark plugs and buttoning up the cowl. I taxied out to go flying and during the runup had a bad mag check. I taxied back, removed the cowl, and there it was ! I had reversed the #3 and #4 top spark plug wires.

  I guess the moral of this story is if you are going to talk,finish what you were doing first or stop working,talk and then resume when the distraction is gone.

                                                         Dick Maddux

                                                         Fox 4

                                                         Milton,Fl

  [quote][b]

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: Fuel situation

I too have experienced this, but with full fuel and a partially positioned 

fuel cap like Deke describes.  I think in the leg we flew - a flight of six 

up from the Desert Fox fly-in years ago - I lost a full tank of fuel.



One further thought.  I agree with Lynn about the reading of the sight guage 

not being accurate in level flight and on the ground.  I made a very 

accurate card marking fuel gallons at both three point and in level flight. 

At some point, the readings became the same.  I don't recall the details as 

that airplane is gone, but as I recall it was somwhere about mid capacity 

that the geometry of the tank compensated for the tank angle.



Lowell



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:37 am Post subject: Fuel situation

Your point is good too, Dick....don't forget where you left off after  

the distraction is gone. Jabiru came out with a bulletin on how to  

torque the prop flange, after a guy answered he phone during doing  

just that task. The bulletin said "Once you start this job, do not  

answer the phone or otherwise get distracted until the job is finished."



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

On Mar 19, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Catz631(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Lynn,

  You bring up a good point ....distraction. By talking with the  

 farmer you lost your train of thought and forgot to fasten the gas  

 cap (lucky you found it) I did a similar thing.

  A friend of mine was talking to me when I had just replaced my  

 spark plugs and buttoning up the cowl. I taxied out to go flying  

 and during the runup had a bad mag check. I taxied back, removed  

 the cowl, and there it was ! I had reversed the #3 and #4 top spark  

 plug wires.

  I guess the moral of this story is if you are going to talk,finish  

 what you were doing first or stop working,talk and then resume when  

 the distraction is gone.

                                                         Dick Maddux

                                                         Fox 4

                                                         Milton,Fl

 www.matronics.com/contribution _- 

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:02 am Post subject: Fuel situation

I've seen that too, Lowell. With a certain amount of fuel onboard,  

the tail-low reading will be faulty in the low direction. Level the  

plane up and presto....you have more fuel than you thought. I've left  

the ground with the readings on both tanks in the "red"...."no take- 

off" zone. Took off anyway, or level the tail dragger, and the sight  

gauges will show 4-5 gallons.



Which brings up a question.....somewhere in "How to fly a Kitfox" it  

says something to the effect of "do not make long descents with a low  

fuel situation in the Kitfox" and I'll be damned if I can find it  

again, after I read it. (This point was driven home to me last year  

going into Oshkosh, when my engine quit 20 feet after pulling off the  

runway. Two minutes later, enough fuel had drizzled into the header  

tank to start the engine, and taxi a half-mile to Homebuilt camping.)



I'd appreciate it anybody could find that warning, and let me know  

what page it is on.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:



[quote] 

 <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net>



 I too have experienced this, but with full fuel and a partially  

 positioned fuel cap like Deke describes.  I think in the leg we  

 flew - a flight of six up from the Desert Fox fly-in years ago - I  

 lost a full tank of fuel.



 One further thought.  I agree with Lynn about the reading of the  

 sight guage not being accurate in level flight and on the ground.   

 I made a very accurate card marking fuel gallons at both three  

 point and in level flight. At some point, the readings became the  

 same.  I don't recall the details as that airplane is gone, but as  

 I recall it was somwhere about mid capacity that the geometry of  

 the tank compensated for the tank angle.



 Lowell



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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Fuel situation

Lynn Matteson asked:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Which brings up a question.....somewhere in "How to fly a Kitfox" it

says something to the effect of "do not make long descents with a low

fuel situation in the Kitfox" and I'll be damned if I can find it

again, after I read it. (This point was driven home to me last year

going into Oshkosh, when my engine quit 20 feet after pulling off the

runway. Two minutes later, enough fuel had drizzled into the header

tank to start the engine, and taxi a half-mile to Homebuilt camping.)



I'd appreciate it anybody could find that warning, and let me know

what page it is on. 	




Managment of the fuel during descents is discussed near the end of this Service letter.

http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/support/service_letters/sl45.htm

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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel situation

Page 176



"4. Avoid prolonged, steep descents if only minimal unusable fuel remains in tanks."



There are some things that I have read that can't be found now too.



I read in Discovery magazine a while back that every time we pull a memory out of our memory bank we have to re-remember it when we put it back in the memory bank.  Each time we do this we change it a little bit, then after awhile the memory can change significantly from what actually happened.  I think that's what it said anyhow if I remember it correctly.

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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel situation

I think your last post and mine collided in cyberspace and it knocked mine into a time warp.  It is posted an hour before I wrote it.  do not archive.

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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: Fuel situation

Thanks for pointing me in that direction, Tom.....good reading, but  

not really what I was looking for. I was specifically looking for the  

passage in the book "Kitfox pilot's Guide" by Earl S. Downs, and not  

in "How to fly a Kitfox", as I previously requested (gettin' old is  

hell). I own this book, and I saw that passage just a week or so ago,  

and can't for the life of me find it again. I was hoping that someone  

who has the book might have earmarked that page and could jump right  

to it....and save me having to go through the book page by page  

*again* just to find it. I know the drill by heart by now,  

(descending in "stair-steps") having been through this same scenario  

again and again....I just want to see *that* passage in *that* book  

again...maybe just to prove to myself that I wasn't just imagining  

things.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

do not archive



On Mar 19, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Tom Jones wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Lynn mattison asked:



> Which brings up a question.....somewhere in "How to fly a Kitfox" it

> says something to the effect of "do not make long descents with a low

> fuel situation in the Kitfox" and I'll be damned if I can find it

> again, after I read it. (This point was driven home to me last year

> going into Oshkosh, when my engine quit 20 feet after pulling off the

> runway. Two minutes later, enough fuel had drizzled into the header

> tank to start the engine, and taxi a half-mile to Homebuilt camping.)

>

> I'd appreciate it anybody could find that warning, and let me know

> what page it is on.

 Managment of the fuel during descents is discussed near the end of  

 this Service letter.

 http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/support/service_letters/sl45.htm



 --------

 Tom Jones

 Classic IV

 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp

 Ellensburg, WA





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290945#290945

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: Fuel situation

Call off the dogs.....I found the passage I was looking for.....page  

195 of "(The) Kitfox Pilot's Guide" continued onto p.196, under the  

heading "Descent" item #4 "Avoid prolonged, steep descents if only  

minimal useable fuel remains in tanks."



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

do not archive

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: Fuel situation

Just for fun, Tom, re-check that page number....it's 196 in my book,  

and is your clock set right (daylight savings time) on your computer?  

A swell prize is being offered to the guy who posted it first, and I  

think I won. : )



I could've sworn I saw that  "Avoid...." in a body of text somewhere  

in the book, but this was probably what I saw, and like Discovery  

mentioned, I might have "changed it a little bit". It is this  

changing of facts that prevents me from giving away good books when  

I've read them....I always need to re-check some facts after time has  

passed. : (



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

do not archive



On Mar 19, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Tom Jones wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Page 176



 "4. Avoid prolonged, steep descents if only minimal unusable fuel  

 remains in tanks."



 There are some things that I have read that can't be found now too.



 I read in Discovery magazine a while back that every time we pull a  

 memory out of our memory bank we have to re-remember it when we put  

 it back in the memory bank.  Each time we do this we change it a  

 little bit, then after awhile the memory can change significantly  

 from what actually happened.  I think that's what it said anyhow if  

 I remember it correctly.



 --------

 Tom Jones

 Classic IV

 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp

 Ellensburg, WA





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290964#290964

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: Fuel situation

And your reply got here before my comment did.....maybe Guy and Mike  

are holding it for ransom. : )  do not archive



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 880.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~120 to go(128 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

do not archive



On Mar 19, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Tom Jones wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I think your last post and mine collided in cyberspace and it  

 knocked mine into a time warp.  It is posted an hour before I wrote  

 it.  do not archive.



 --------

 Tom Jones

 Classic IV

 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp

 Ellensburg, WA





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290965#290965

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:46 am Post subject: Fuel situation

I always thought for steep descents the engine should be at the idle to keep

it fairly rich.  That way there would be no prolonged descents.  Generally

for an enroute decent I just pull back the throttle and keep a little nose

high attitude.



Noel



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Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: Fuel situation

My thoughts on long descents are, if air cooled, keep some power on to avoid 

shock cooling, especially in cold air.  Liquid cooled isn't so much of a 

problem.

Opinions may vary.

Deke Morisse

Mikado Michigan

S5/Subaru/CAP 439+ TT

Previously Model 2 582 400 Hrs

"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara

Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand."

-- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006)





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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:45 am Post subject: Fuel situation

This is one of the things I think of during the  aircooled vs. liquid cooled 

debates.  Sometimes simpler is not simpler.  It reminds me of the times we 

dropped down the canyon to land at Orofino - Point the nose at the river and 

watch the airspeed.  I have tested the fuel flow on a 30 min descent from 

14,000 ft. to my pattern - 2000 ft. and if on the final six gallons each 

tank, the tanks will definitely unport and the engine will feed from the 

header tank.  It is an easy task to level a bit and get things flowing 

again.  This, of course, with the early aft feeding wing tanks.  I like the 

clear vent lines and the glass fuel filters between the wing tanks and the 

header tankl  I was able to watch all this unfold.



Lowell

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: Fuel situation

Clear vent line and glass (Purolator see-through) filters is how I  

observe my fuel low at low-fuel situations. When I had the incident  

that started this thread, I flew within about a mile of my home field  

at about 4000 AGL, then lost altitude at the rate of about 2000 fpm,  

turned into the pattern and landed...piece of cake.....all without  

the low-fuel warning light coming on. It's just a matter of "knowing  

thine own airplane" as AVweb's John Deakin (Pelican's Perch) might say.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 881.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~119 to go(126 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Sensenich 55.5" x 46" Wood (winter)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

On Mar 20, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:



[quote] 

 <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net>



 This is one of the things I think of during the  aircooled vs.  

 liquid cooled debates.  Sometimes simpler is not simpler.  It  

 reminds me of the times we dropped down the canyon to land at  

 Orofino - Point the nose at the river and watch the airspeed.  I  

 have tested the fuel flow on a 30 min descent from 14,000 ft. to my  

 pattern - 2000 ft. and if on the final six gallons each tank, the  

 tanks will definitely unport and the engine will feed from the  

 header tank.  It is an easy task to level a bit and get things  

 flowing again.  This, of course, with the early aft feeding wing  

 tanks.  I like the clear vent lines and the glass fuel filters  

 between the wing tanks and the header tankl  I was able to watch  

 all this unfold.



 Lowell

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
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