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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: flap system install Reply with quote

just finishing the flap system install.
 
a couple of pointers
 
Ream all weldment holes to size: AN3 = #12 ream AN4 = .249 ream
 
although the plans show installing by inserting through the rear floor area; they can be inserted more easily via the external hole and pushed to the center. The outer skin hole should be deburred and smooth. The key is marking all parts to location and orientation. then wax the torque tubes and insert.
 
with reference to the flap horn bolts. leave the tunnel parts together but don't install tunnel bolts. install the flap horn outboard bolt first after sliding the torque tube as far into the center weldment as possible. then a wrench underneath and a ratchet extension will allow tightening. Then position the torque tube properly; the other bolt can be reached with a ratchet extension.vertically   
 
when drilling the flap motor for safety wire you will probably need to drill  vertically about .050 and then horizontally to meet the vertical hole.
 
lastly this applies to all corrosion treatment of tubes. I clean the inside with an acetone rinse then spray primer in the end. on the other end is an operating shop vacuum. the primer is quickly distributed down the pipe. 


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: flap system install Reply with quote

This could be a dangerous practice.  At least with my shop vac any vapors which make it through the filter (and the filter is designed to trap particles, not vapor) will be exposed to the motor brushes.  This could result in a rather large bang!
 

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: flap system install Reply with quote

Not true.  Even with the most volatile stuff out there, there is so much air that the mixture is too lean to ignite.  If I'm not totally mistaken ... 'Mythbusters' also came to the same conclusion.  But having said that, all that paint in the vacuum cleaner can't be a good thing either.
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Jack Sargeant wrote:
[quote] This could be a dangerous practice.  At least with my shop vac any vapors which make it through the filter (and the filter is designed to trap particles, not vapor) will be exposed to the motor brushes.  This could result in a rather large bang!
 

Jack & Cecilia Sargeant
1127 Patricia St.
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316/682-5268 [quote] --


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: flap system install Reply with quote

Hey guy's, you can totally destroy a perfectly good vacuum, and scare the crap out of anyone within a 100ft or so, with flammable vapors. Don't ask me how I know!
Sam
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linn Walters wrote:
[quote] Not true.  Even with the most volatile stuff out there, there is so much air that the mixture is too lean to ignite.  If I'm not totally mistaken ... 'Mythbusters' also came to the same conclusion.  But having said that, all that paint in the vacuum cleaner can't be a good thing either.
Linn


Jack Sargeant wrote:
[quote] This could be a dangerous practice.  At least with my shop vac any vapors which make it through the filter (and the filter is designed to trap particles, not vapor) will be exposed to the motor brushes.  This could result in a rather large bang!
 

Jack & Cecilia Sargeant
1127 Patricia St.
Wichita, KS 67208-2642
316/682-5268 [quote] --


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: flap system install Reply with quote

Sure, and aluminum and steel grinding dust won’t ignite cause there is too much air.  Ask Hoyt Fleming of Boise how his brand new Lancair ES was burned to waste parts by just sanding.  You need to do further research and not hold Myth Busters in such high esteem.
 
That phrase “ I didn’t know it would do that…. Or Here, hold my beer and watch this” come to mind.
 
John - $00.02
 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
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Not true.  Even with the most volatile stuff out there, there is so much air that the mixture is too lean to ignite.  If I'm not totally mistaken .... 'Mythbusters' also came to the same conclusion.  But having said that, all that paint in the vacuum cleaner can't be a good thing either.
Linn


Jack Sargeant wrote:


This could be a dangerous practice.  At least with my shop vac any vapors which make it through the filter (and the filter is designed to trap particles, not vapor) will be exposed to the motor brushes.  This could result in a rather large bang!

 

Jack & Cecilia Sargeant
1127 Patricia St.
Wichita, KS 67208-2642
316/682-5268
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Subject: flap system install
just finishing the flap system install.

 

a couple of pointers

 

Ream all weldment holes to size: AN3 = #12 ream AN4 = .249 ream

 

although the plans show installing by inserting through the rear floor area; they can be inserted more easily via the external hole and pushed to the center. The outer skin hole should be deburred and smooth. The key is marking all parts to location and orientation. then wax the torque tubes and insert.

 

with reference to the flap horn bolts. leave the tunnel parts together but don't install tunnel bolts. install the flap horn outboard bolt first after sliding the torque tube as far into the center weldment as possible. then a wrench underneath and a ratchet extension will allow tightening. Then position the torque tube properly; the other bolt can be reached with a ratchet extension.vertically   

 

when drilling the flap motor for safety wire you will probably need to drill  vertically about .050 and then horizontally to meet the vertical hole.

 

lastly this applies to all corrosion treatment of tubes. I clean the inside with an acetone rinse then spray primer in the end. on the other end is an operating shop vacuum. the primer is quickly distributed down the pipe. 

 


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: flap system install Reply with quote

In a message dated 4/21/06 10:19:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com writes:
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That phrase “ I didn’t know it would do that…. Or Here, hold my beer and watch this” come to mind.


LOL...LOL...the problem with MythBusters is that they don't often actually replicate all conditions only the elements they find interesting and that they can easily do with their budget and facilities near by...it's entertainment not science.
 
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