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flyadive(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:33 am Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

Hey Guys:



I am looking for information on ways to seal a fuel tank.

I have seen in the ACS catalog a product called SLOSH COMPOUND

(PR-1005-L).  There is also a product Randolph 802.



I believe my requirements are simple:

Seal an aluminum tank

Seal against AVGAS

Seal against MoGas

Seal against MoGas w/ethanol.



Would anyone have any recommendations?



Thanks Gaggle.



Barry

steve(at)cccparis.com
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:53 am Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

check out Proseal from Vans, it is what they use to make their tanks.

Steve Russell 701 plans

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flyadive(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:35 am Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

Steve:



Van's has tank sealant but I did not find SLOSHING SEALER.



Barry



On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Steve Russell <steve(at)cccparis.com> wrote:

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 check out Proseal from Vans, it is what they use to make their tanks.

 Steve Russell 701 plans

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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

Barry, the vans sealent work's , but you'll have to remove the tank.after you pull the tank you shoot it along the welded edges and wipe it in with your gloved fingers ,let it dry and do it again build it up all anong the seams and fittings . One tube will do both tanks .As far as sloshing the tank,have at it ,but  we 're going to be reading about you in the news paper. Sloch is for thing's that stay on the ground...and it's best to leave it that way no matter whose prod it is.   Joe N101HD 601 XL-B

   From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com>

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 1:29:10 PM

Subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

--> Zenith-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)>

Hey Guys:

I am looking for information on ways to seal a fuel tank.

I have seen in the ACS catalog a product called SLOSH COMPOUND

(PR-1005-L).  There is also a product Randolph 802.

I believe my requirements are simple:

Seal an aluminum tank

Seal against AVGAS

Seal against MoGas

Seal against MoGas w/ethanol.

Would anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks             - List Contribution Web Site -

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klburris

Joined: 19 Dec 2009
Posts: 18

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject: Sealing a fuel tank

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flyadive(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

Joe:



Where does this come from?  "As far as sloshing the tank,have at it

,but  we 're going to be reading about you in the news paper. Slosh is

for thing's that stay on the ground...and it's best to leave it that

way no matter whose prod it is."



What do you know?



Spill the beans.



The issue I am having is because I can not find the leak or access

where I think the leak might be.  I was thinking of SLOSHING because

of the flow nature of the material and I was going to combine it with

pressurizing the tank to help force the stuff in all (I HOPE) areas.



Will you please enlighten.



Barry

purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
Guest

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

OK. Ill spill the beans,  I had a leak in my  left tank , bought some good stuff  that was suopse the be the best ,two part  one was a etch one was the sealer.one it's very hard to slosh a gas tank with it still in the wing no to mention if the wing is hooked to the plane, you have no way of telling exactely where the leak is . you have no way knowing if you've got the thank 100% primed,cleanedand if  your slosh is in the right spot or not and how thick it is .   Just drill out 30 or 40 rivets on the leading edge  lift your tank out do your' re seal and go on your way  I had a hell of a time getting that crap out of my tank and it still shows up in the filter and finger screen. I had a million people tell me not to slosh, but NOOOOO I had to  do it. Now as far as the  " news paper goes  If need be I'll have my friend give you a call . I'am sure he will be more than  glad to tell you about sloshing an how to land your plane in the water without killing yourself, after sloshing.I hope doesn't get in a plane..Like they say" Don't worrie about that rough running engine before take off ,IT'LL SMOOTH OUT ONCE YOU GET IN THE AIR"   That all I  can say about that ,Barry    Joe N101hd 601xl-b

   From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com>

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 1:23:40 PM

Subject: Re: SEALING A FUEL TANK

--> Zenith-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)>

Joe:

Where does this come from?  "As far as sloshing the tank,have at it

,but  we 're going to be reading about you in the news paper. Slosh is

for thing's that stay on the ground...and it's best to leave it that

way no matter whose prod it is."

What do you know?

Spill the beans.

The issue I am having is because I can not find the leak or access

where I think the leak might be.  I was thinking  of SLOSHING because

of the flow nature of the material and I was going to combine it with

pressurizing the tank to help force the stuff in all nbsp;                    =======================

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klaus(at)utdallas.edu
Guest

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 4:11 am Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

Hi,



I have been told from an RV builder that the sloshing compound may be attacked

by autogas. If you will ONLY use 100LL, then it may be okay. But if you are planning

to use autogas, then the strong solvent properties of autogas may well attack the

sloshing compound, and the crumbling compound may block fuel flow. 

That happened to the RV builder.

It was a nightmare to get the flaking stuff out of the tank.



Sealing from outside: When I was faced with leak problems, I simply sealed ALL

seams from the outside. That solved the problem for a while. Then I decided to

have all tanks remade by a reliable company. Their welding was first rate, and

since then there have been no leaks whatsoever.



Good luck, and happy flying,



Klaus



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n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

Properly applied and using the correct product sloshing compound will work great. I have 6+ years and several thousands of gallons of 10% alcohol laced auto fuel run through my system with NO degrading of the product, NO delamination, NO flaking.... 

Your mileage may vary. <GG> 

do not archive

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



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mtherr(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 12:47 pm Post subject: SEALING A FUEL TANK

I put Randolph 912 in my fuel tanks 8 years ago (plane flying since 2004 - 6 years).  I put only "super unleaded" auto fuel in my tanks and so far, no flaking and the color of the stuff is still white.    Looking at ACS web site, it seems that the stuff is no longer available and is replaced by a PPG product (can't comment on this one).

  

 I took that decision after having my tanks welded.  I initially detected some pin holes and brought them back to the welder.  Did that a couple of times.   I tested them with colored water, air, soap and I was getting crazy and loosing sleep over a potential leak...  I could no longer say whether or not they were leaking but I did not want to take any chance. 

  

 One thing that Randolph told me on the phone is that once the stuff is put in the tank, there must always be fuel vapors in the tanks.  He advised me not to leave the tanks dry while I was completing my project.   An interesting thing however, Randolph was not pushing to sell their product... the person I spoke with said this was  for corrective measure or last resort measure.   

  

  

  

 Michel

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From: n801bh(at)netzero.com <n801bh(at)netzero.com>

Subject: Re: Re: SEALING A FUEL TANK

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Received: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:59 AM



  Properly applied and using the correct product sloshing compound will work great. I have 6+ years and several thousands of gallons of 10% alcohol laced auto fuel run through my system with NO degrading of the product, NO delamination, NO flaking....

 Your mileage may vary. <GG>

 do not archive

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



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