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Well I have a slight issue I would like everyone’s opinion on. When final drilling the elevator horns where the push rod connects. I made a filler block according to vans instructions, I did have a thought to make it out of steel or even aluminum block but my desire to keep moving got the best of me and I make it out of oak. We as you can imagine the drill bit walked a bit and the holes did not get drilled as straight as humanly possible as stated in the plans.
I was able to get the balance arms close not not close enough for me to being level with the horiz stab as I would like. I am about 1/16 or a tad more off. When the left side is flush the right side is up about a 1/16 or a tad more. I know this is close and the elevator aft spars are almost perfect parallel to each other when I run a 4 ft level across the back of then to see how close there in line to each other.
So the question is am I being to anal about this or should I g have the left Elevator horn holes welded shut and redrill. Or should I think I am way close enough. I will call vans this morning ro see what they say. I am sure they will say build on.
So if you have not gotten to this step do not use wood make the block out of aluminum or steel.
John G. Cumins
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: Elevator balance weigth arms |
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Welcome to the club John. I welded up the offending hole ..... twice ... before I got it right. I made the 'working' block to fill the arm giving much more area to clamp on. I think that I ended up drilling a little dimple to mark the spot and drilling the hole after removing the elevator.
Linn
John Cumins wrote: [quote] Elevator balance weigth arms
Well I have a slight issue I would like everyone’s opinion on. When final drilling the elevator horns where the push rod connects. I made a filler block according to vans instructions, I did have a thought to make it out of steel or even aluminum block but my desire to keep moving got the best of me and I make it out of oak. We as you can imagine the drill bit walked a bit and the holes did not get drilled as straight as humanly possible as stated in the plans.
I was able to get the balance arms close not not close enough for me to being level with the horiz stab as I would like. I am about 1/16 or a tad more off. When the left side is flush the right side is up about a 1/16 or a tad more. I know this is close and the elevator aft spars are almost perfect parallel to each other when I run a 4 ft level across the back of then to see how close there in line to each other.
So the question is am I being to anal about this or should I g have the left Elevator horn holes welded shut and redrill. Or should I think I am way close enough. I will call vans this morning ro see what they say. I am sure they will say build on.
So if you have not gotten to this step do not use wood make the block out of aluminum or steel.
John G. Cumins
40864 Emp
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Elevator balance weigth arms |
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Hi John,
Not sure if you NEED to re-drill but I can guaranty you will think about it for the rest of the build and the first flight (even if it doesn't affect it).
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: Elevator balance weigth arms |
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Linn
Thanks for the reply, were you able to get both elevators flush on both sides or are they off just a tad like mine are.
Having a hard time not knowing they are not perfect hehehe.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
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Welcome to the club John. I welded up the offending hole ..... twice .... before I got it right. I made the 'working' block to fill the arm giving much more area to clamp on. I think that I ended up drilling a little dimple to mark the spot and drilling the hole after removing the elevator.
Linn
John Cumins wrote:
Well I have a slight issue I would like everyone’s opinion on. When final drilling the elevator horns where the push rod connects. I made a filler block according to vans instructions, I did have a thought to make it out of steel or even aluminum block but my desire to keep moving got the best of me and I make it out of oak. We as you can imagine the drill bit walked a bit and the holes did not get drilled as straight as humanly possible as stated in the plans.
I was able to get the balance arms close not not close enough for me to being level with the horiz stab as I would like. I am about 1/16 or a tad more off. When the left side is flush the right side is up about a 1/16 or a tad more. I know this is close and the elevator aft spars are almost perfect parallel to each other when I run a 4 ft level across the back of then to see how close there in line to each other.
So the question is am I being to anal about this or should I g have the left Elevator horn holes welded shut and redrill. Or should I think I am way close enough. I will call vans this morning ro see what they say. I am sure they will say build on.
So if you have not gotten to this step do not use wood make the block out of aluminum or steel.
John G. Cumins
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject: Elevator balance weigth arms |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: Elevator balance weigth arms |
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"I would like everyone's opinion" is a very dangerous statement.
do not archive
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On Jun 3, 2010, at 12:53 PM, John Cumins wrote:
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Well I have a slight issue I would like everyone’s opinion on. When final drilling the elevator horns where the push rod connects. I made a filler block according to vans instructions, I did have a thought to make it out of steel or even aluminum block but my desire to keep moving got the best of me and I make it out of oak. We as you can imagine the drill bit walked a bit and the holes did not get drilled as straight as humanly possible as stated in the plans.
I was able to get the balance arms close not not close enough for me to being level with the horiz stab as I would like. I am about 1/16 or a tad more off. When the left side is flush the right side is up about a 1/16 or a tad more. I know this is close and the elevator aft spars are almost perfect parallel to each other when I run a 4 ft level across the back of then to see how close there in line to each other.
So the question is am I being to anal about this or should I g have the left Elevator horn holes welded shut and redrill. Or should I think I am way close enough. I will call vans this morning ro see what they say. I am sure they will say build on.
So if you have not gotten to this step do not use wood make the block out of aluminum or steel.
John G. Cumins
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: Elevator balance weigth arms |
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Jesse, it was a question, not a statement, and where else can you get so many opinions???
Linn
Jesse Saint wrote: [quote]"I would like everyone's opinion" is a very dangerous statement.
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Well I have a slight issue I would like everyone’s opinion on. When final drilling the elevator horns where the push rod connects. I made a filler block according to vans instructions, I did have a thought to make it out of steel or even aluminum block but my desire to keep moving got the best of me and I make it out of oak. We as you can imagine the drill bit walked a bit and the holes did not get drilled as straight as humanly possible as stated in the plans.
I was able to get the balance arms close not not close enough for me to being level with the horiz stab as I would like. I am about 1/16 or a tad more off. When the left side is flush the right side is up about a 1/16 or a tad more. I know this is close and the elevator aft spars are almost perfect parallel to each other when I run a 4 ft level across the back of then to see how close there in line to each other.
So the question is am I being to anal about this or should I g have the left Elevator horn holes welded shut and redrill. Or should I think I am way close enough. I will call vans this morning ro see what they say. I am sure they will say build on.
So if you have not gotten to this step do not use wood make the block out of aluminum or steel.
John G. Cumins
40864 Emp
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Elevator balance weigth arms |
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I had a similar problem on mine. Van's told me to just weld it and drill it again. I did not want to think about that thing failing while flying, so i just bought new elevator horns and replaced them. Wasn't too hard and I felt that it was worth the effort.
You can see some pictures I posted here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=43969&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=23
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: Elevator balance weigth arms |
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Jesse
It is like asking what kind of Primer to use or not. HEHEH thanks.
John G. Cumins
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:57 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Elevator balance weigth arms
"I would like everyone's opinion" is a very dangerous statement.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jun 3, 2010, at 12:53 PM, John Cumins wrote:
Well I have a slight issue I would like everyone’s opinion on. When final drilling the elevator horns where the push rod connects. I made a filler block according to vans instructions, I did have a thought to make it out of steel or even aluminum block but my desire to keep moving got the best of me and I make it out of oak. We as you can imagine the drill bit walked a bit and the holes did not get drilled as straight as humanly possible as stated in the plans.
I was able to get the balance arms close not not close enough for me to being level with the horiz stab as I would like. I am about 1/16 or a tad more off. When the left side is flush the right side is up about a 1/16 or a tad more. I know this is close and the elevator aft spars are almost perfect parallel to each other when I run a 4 ft level across the back of then to see how close there in line to each other.
So the question is am I being to anal about this or should I g have the left Elevator horn holes welded shut and redrill. Or should I think I am way close enough. I will call vans this morning ro see what they say. I am sure they will say build on.
So if you have not gotten to this step do not use wood make the block out of aluminum or steel.
John G. Cumins
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