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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:50 am    Post subject: Panel Labeling Reply with quote

I agree with Dick and would highly recommend Pulsar.

Angier Ames
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Time: 11:54:20 AM PST US
From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker(at)optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Re: labeling panel
Check out http://www.pulsarprofx.com/

You do need to find a heat sealer (or buy the one they sell), but the
results are as good as they claim. I did my panels with this and it
came out great! There is s bit of a learning curve at the start, but
the kit provides plenty of material. I did use a clear overcoat for
additional durability, but it is not necessary in areas of minimum
exposure - near switches, yes; general labeling on the main panel, not
really.

Dick Tasker


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Panel Labeling Reply with quote

So Dick You did not use the laminator at all? Also Do I need the whole kit
or just the color foil I want and the transfer foil & adhesive?
Tim Andres


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Check out http://www.pulsarprofx.com/

You do need to find a heat sealer (or buy the one they sell), but the
results are as good as they claim. I did my panels with this and it
came out great! There is s bit of a learning curve at the start, but
the kit provides plenty of material. I did use a clear overcoat for
additional durability, but it is not necessary in areas of minimum
exposure - near switches, yes; general labeling on the main panel, not
really.

Dick Tasker


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Panel Labeling Reply with quote

Yes I used a laminator. When I bought the kit the laminator they sold
was expensive (still is) so I found one of the recommended ones on eBay
for a reasonable price. Now Digikey sells the "Personal Laminator"
which is recommended for the PCB fabrication kit for $69.95
(182-1030-ND). It is the one with the two position switch which is one
of the ones recommended for the decal kit.

Well, you don't need "the whole kit", but when you price out what you do
need, you might as well purchase the whole kit.

Of the six items in the kit, you can get the 3M blue masking tape almost
anywhere and you really don't need the sample sheets although they allow
you to experiment with pre-printed things. The selection of color foils
supplied is gross overkill for our use, but is useful for those few
places you want a different color. You can purchase the adhesive in
quite a few locations (at least in the US).

So you have to purchase the toner transfer system, the carrier boards
and the mylar carrier (for a total of $42). You will also have to
purchase locally the adhesive and the 3M tape (for around $23). And
then whatever colors you want to use. The total then becomes $65 plus
the color foil. That leaves $25 for foil which means just under three
colors. But you get two toner transfer system packages with the kit
(which you may not actually need).

I would buy the kit and if I thought that I would use more of one of the
colors, a roll of that. But keep in mind that each color sheet is 8" x
36" long. If you group the decals you make together on one sheet (even
if they will be far apart on the panel) you can get a LOT of decals from
one sheet.

Dick Tasker

Tim Andres wrote:
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So Dick You did not use the laminator at all? Also Do I need the whole kit
or just the color foil I want and the transfer foil& adhesive?
Tim Andres

> Check out http://www.pulsarprofx.com/
>
> You do need to find a heat sealer (or buy the one they sell), but the
> results are as good as they claim. I did my panels with this and it
> came out great! There is s bit of a learning curve at the start, but
> the kit provides plenty of material. I did use a clear overcoat for
> additional durability, but it is not necessary in areas of minimum
> exposure - near switches, yes; general labeling on the main panel, not
> really.
>
> Dick Tasker
>




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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Panel Labeling Reply with quote

Thanks Dick. What is the deal with the laminator; do they want a lower heat?
Thanks again; I'm going to give it a try.
Tim


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Panel Labeling Reply with quote

Actually I think they want the higher heat. On mine it has two settings
- one for 3 mil and one for 5 mil mylar. I use the thicker (higher
heat) setting.

Dick

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Thanks Dick. What is the deal with the laminator; do they want a lower heat?
Thanks again; I'm going to give it a try.
Tim
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:49 am    Post subject: Panel Labeling Reply with quote

Thanks much for this write-up. I'm going to go down this route for my
panel (that's waiting for paint).

Bill Watson

Richard Tasker wrote:
Quote:

<retasker(at)optonline.net>

Yes I used a laminator. When I bought the kit the laminator they sold
was expensive (still is) so I found one of the recommended ones on
eBay for a reasonable price. Now Digikey sells the "Personal
Laminator" which is recommended for the PCB fabrication kit for $69.95
(182-1030-ND). It is the one with the two position switch which is
one of the ones recommended for the decal kit.

Well, you don't need "the whole kit", but when you price out what you
do need, you might as well purchase the whole kit.

Of the six items in the kit, you can get the 3M blue masking tape
almost anywhere and you really don't need the sample sheets although
they allow you to experiment with pre-printed things. The selection
of color foils supplied is gross overkill for our use, but is useful
for those few places you want a different color. You can purchase the
adhesive in quite a few locations (at least in the US).

So you have to purchase the toner transfer system, the carrier boards
and the mylar carrier (for a total of $42). You will also have to
purchase locally the adhesive and the 3M tape (for around $23). And
then whatever colors you want to use. The total then becomes $65 plus
the color foil. That leaves $25 for foil which means just under three
colors. But you get two toner transfer system packages with the kit
(which you may not actually need).

I would buy the kit and if I thought that I would use more of one of
the colors, a roll of that. But keep in mind that each color sheet is
8" x 36" long. If you group the decals you make together on one sheet
(even if they will be far apart on the panel) you can get a LOT of
decals from one sheet.

Dick Tasker

Tim Andres wrote:
>
> Andres"<tim2542(at)sbcglobal.net>
>
> So Dick You did not use the laminator at all? Also Do I need the
> whole kit
> or just the color foil I want and the transfer foil& adhesive?
> Tim Andres
>
>> Check out http://www.pulsarprofx.com/
>>
>> You do need to find a heat sealer (or buy the one they sell), but the
>> results are as good as they claim. I did my panels with this and it
>> came out great! There is s bit of a learning curve at the start, but
>> the kit provides plenty of material. I did use a clear overcoat for
>> additional durability, but it is not necessary in areas of minimum
>> exposure - near switches, yes; general labeling on the main panel, not
>> really.
>>
>> Dick Tasker
>>
>
>


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:35 am    Post subject: Panel Labeling Reply with quote

Why not just let Stein do it for $20.00? They will print one entire sheet of labels in the color of your choice, if I understand correctly. 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:56 am    Post subject: Panel Labeling Reply with quote

Printing directly on the painted panel is much neater, cleaner and more professional looking than "labels" in many people's opinion. You can do a nice neat "labelling" job but it's still "labels" whereas printing directly on the panel doesn't give the label's background. (even a clear label still has an outline)
 
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Why not just let Stein do it for $20.00?  They will print one entire sheet of labels in the color of your choice, if I understand correctly. 
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