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hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 240

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:24 am Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

I have a Vans throttle quadrant and am using the cables that came with it run through standard FW holes.



Here's the issue... The -540 engine sump comes close to the lower mount tube (at least in my case). This means that neither the mixture or prop cable can be run as shown in the plans - which assume vernier controls btw. Both are routed under the lower mount touch the tube. The throttle cable runs in the place shown by the plans, but it too rests right on the mount tube and is quite snug against it. It seems to reason that the cables will chaffe against the engine mount over time as they are attached to a mucho vibrating engine.



I called Vans the other day and asked them for some input. Ken said to make sure that there was at least 1/2" of slack in the cables. He also confirmed what I've heard elsewhere that there is quite a bit of variation in lycosaur engine dimensions. Vans ran into this first hand on their -12. There was a comment made about procuring longer cables from the vendor if required (hmmm... not a good customer experience). 



I recently saw another builders -10 when it was down for its annual. This one used standard verniers, but its throttle cable also touched the engine mount. The builder had used a ~3" piece of clamped up rubber hose around the cable where it touched the mount tube. Seems like a pretty good low tech solution that doesn't involve buying new cables.



Anyone else have this problem and if so how did you solve it?



Regards,

Jay

n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
Guest

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

Can't you put an adel clamp around it and secure it to another adel  

clamp around the engine mount to keep it from rubbing?



Sent from my iPhone



On May 11, 2010, at 10:24 AM, "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I have a Vans throttle quadrant and am using the cables that came  

 with it run through standard FW holes.



 Here's the issue... The -540 engine sump comes close to the lower  

 mount tube (at least in my case). This means that neither the  

 mixture or prop cable can be run as shown in the plans - which  

 assume vernier controls btw. Both are routed under the lower mount  

 touch the tube. The throttle cable runs in the place shown by the  

 plans, but it too rests right on the mount tube and is quite snug  

 against it. It seems to reason that the cables will chaffe against  

 the engine mount over time as they are attached to a mucho vibrating  

 engine.



 I called Vans the other day and asked them for some input. Ken said  

 to make sure that there was at least 1/2" of slack in the cables. He  

 also confirmed what I've heard elsewhere that there is quite a bit  

 of variation in lycosaur engine dimensions. Vans ran into this first  

 hand on their -12. There was a comment made about procuring longer  

 cables from the vendor if required (hmmm... not a good customer  

 experience).



 I recently saw another builders -10 when it was down for its annual.  

 This one used standard verniers, but its throttle cable also touched  

 the engine mount. The builder had used a ~3" piece of clamped up  

 rubber hose around the cable where it touched the mount tube. Seems  

 like a pretty good low tech solution that doesn't involve buying new  

 cables.



 Anyone else have this problem and if so how did you solve it?



 Regards,

 Jay





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partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

Especially if you have cold air induction,,,,, just buy different length cables... several had to modify the motor mounts.

 Don



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From: jayb <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: Engine control cables touch mount

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 7:24 AM



 --> RV10-List message posted by: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com (jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com)>



I have a Vans throttle quadrant and am using the cables that came with it run through standard FW holes.



Here's the issue... The -540 engine sump comes close to the lower mount tube (at least in my case). This means that neither the mixture or prop cable can be run as shown in the plans - which assume vernier controls btw. Both are routed under the lower mount touch the tube. The throttle cable runs in the place shown by the plans, but it too rests right on the mount tube and is quite snug against it. It seems to reason that the cables will chaffe against the engine mount over time as they are attached to a mucho vibrating engine.



I called Vans the other day and asked them for some input. Ken said to make sure that  there was at least 1/2" of slack in the cables. He also confirmed what I've heard elsewhere that there is quite a bit of variation in lycosaur engine dimensions. Vans ran into this first hand on their -12. There was a comment made about procuring longer cables from the vendor if required (hmmm... not a good customer experience). 



I recently saw another builders -10 when it was down for its annual. This one used standard verniers, but its throttle cable also touched the engine mount. The builder had used a ~3" piece of clamped up rubber hose around the cable where it touched the mount tube. Seems like a pretty good low tech solution that doesn't involve buying new cables.



Anyone else have this problem and if so how did you solve it?



Regards,

Jay





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hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Engine control cables touch mount

Seems like a simple fix, but maybe not good idea as the cables need to be able to flex and move freely along with the engine. There is already an adel clamp in the standard location recommended by Vans. Adding a second clamp might work if it were on the large side. However, the cable might then wear against the clamp. Maybe I'm thinking too hard.



Jay



> Can't you put an adel clamp around it and secure it to another adel

> clamp around the engine mount to keep it from rubbing?

hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 240

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Engine control cables touch mount

Anyone know how much new cables cost? 



This would be an opportunity for Vans to improve their customer experience by either providing specified cables lengths or no cable option w/ their throttle quadrant. Of course, I'll bet no one from Vans monitors this list.



I'm getting to the point on this project that I no longer trust ANY plan section that says cut, drill or permanently attach w/o consulting the -10 list for gotchas first. Caveat emptor!



Jay



[quote="partner14"]Especially if you have cold air induction,,,,, just buy different length cables... several had to modify the motor mounts.

 Don

orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Engine control cables touch mount

When I ordered my kit that had the cables, I had them switch out the stock cables that came with the quadrant for ones that were at least 1" longer.  Don't remember the exact lengths that I ordered but think I would add another half inch to the throttle if I had to do it again.

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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
Guest

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:06 am Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

You really wouldn't like building an RV-3 or RV-4 then!!!  



Do not archive



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On May 13, 2010, at 11:27 AM, "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Anyone know how much new cables cost?



 This would be an opportunity for Vans to improve their customer  

 experience by either providing specified cables lengths or no cable  

 option w/ their throttle quadrant. Of course, I'll bet no one from  

 Vans monitors this list.



 I'm getting to the point on this project that I no longer trust ANY  

 plan section that says cut, drill or permanently attach w/o  

 consulting the -10 list for gotchas first. Caveat emptor!



 Jay



 [quote="partner14"]Especially if you have cold air induction,,,,,  

 just buy different length cables... several had to modify the motor  

 mounts.

 Don





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n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
Guest

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

I ordered the standard quadrant kit with cables.  The prop cable was  

perfect, but the throttle and mixture were a bit long!  I got them to  

work, bit an inch or two shorter would have been better for my  

install.....



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On May 13, 2010, at 11:32 AM, "orchidman" <gary(at)wingscc.com> wrote:



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 When I ordered my kit that had the cables, I had them switch out the  

 stock cables that came with the quadrant for ones that were at least  

 1" longer.  Don't remember the exact lengths that I ordered but  

 think I would add another half inch to the throttle if I had to do  

 it again.



 --------

 Gary Blankenbiller

 RV10 - # 40674

 (N2GB Flying)





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n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
Guest

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

You are overthinking it.  The cable has a thick plastic shield on it.   

Make the adel clamp a tad big and the plastic can then slide on the  

rubber and it will last for many many years.

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On May 13, 2010, at 11:18 AM, "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Seems like a simple fix, but maybe not good idea as the cables need  

 to be able to flex and move freely along with the engine. There is  

 already an adel clamp in the standard location recommended by Vans.  

 Adding a second clamp might work if it were on the large side.  

 However, the cable might then wear against the clamp. Maybe I'm  

 thinking too hard.

 Jay

> Can't you put an adel clamp around it and secure it to another adel

> clamp around the engine mount to keep it from rubbing?

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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:45 am Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

I replaced the stock cables with 47" for the prop, 51" for mixture and 72" for the prop.  I got the cables from a local cablecraft distributor.  Also, ask for the highest temp rating you can get.  The green cables from Vans aren't the best.  A set of replacement cables should be $200 or less.

  

Do everything to you can to route them away from heat sources, including the heater dumps.  I covered mine with fire sleeve in that area.  The inner liner softens when it gets too hot, and if that happens in a radius then the wire digs into the soft liner, eventually making a groove on the inside.

  Dave Saylor

AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell

 



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Anyone know how much new cables cost?

 

 This would be an opportunity for Vans to improve their customer experience by either providing specified cables lengths or no cable option w/ their throttle quadrant. Of course, I'll bet no one from Vans monitors this list.

    

 I'm getting to the point on this project that I no longer trust ANY plan section that says cut, drill or permanently attach w/o consulting the -10 list for gotchas first. Caveat emptor!

 

 Jay

 

 

 

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

The archives have the name of the company, sales rep and price per cable to improve on the length.  Each was less than $60.00.  They are made for Van's in Portland.  There is a lot of value buried in queries of past posts of years ago for those who enjoy the search.  They are authorized manufacturers for Cablecraft.

  



  John Cox



 

  From: Dave Saylor

Sent: Thu 5/13/2010 9:42 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Engine control cables touch mount

 I replaced the stock cables with 47" for the prop, 51" for mixture and 72" for the prop.  I got the cables from a local cablecraft distributor.  Also, ask for the highest temp rating you can get.  The green cables from Vans aren't the best.  A set of replacement cables should be $200 or less.



Do everything to you can to route them away from heat sources, including the heater dumps.  I covered mine with fire sleeve in that area.  The inner liner softens when it gets too hot, and if that happens in a radius then the wire digs into the soft liner, eventually making a groove on the inside.

Dave Saylor

AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell

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Anyone know how much new cables cost?



This would be an opportunity for Vans to improve their customer experience by either providing specified cables lengths or no cable option w/ their throttle quadrant. Of course, I'll bet no one from Vans monitors this list.



I'm getting to the point on this project that I no longer trust ANY plan section that says cut, drill or permanently attach w/o consulting the -10 list for gotchas first. Caveat emptor!



Jay



[quote="partner14"]Especially if you have cold air induction,,,,, just buy different length cables... several had to modify the motor mounts.

 Don

 



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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

Is this the lead you are referring to John?

 http://www.tuthill.com/us/en/brands/Cablecraft.cfm They make the

cables  for Cessna. You can order direct form Cablecraft



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:14 PM, John Cox <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com> wrote:

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		   The archives have the name of the company, sales rep and price per cable to

 improve on the length.  Each was less than $60.00.  They are made for Van's

 in Portland.  There is a lot of value buried in queries of past posts of

 years ago for those who enjoy the search.  They are authorized manufacturers

 for Cablecraft.



 John Cox

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 From: Dave Saylor

 Sent: Thu 5/13/2010 9:42 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: Engine control cables touch mount



 I replaced the stock cables with 47" for the prop, 51" for mixture and 72"

 for the prop.  I got the cables from a local cablecraft distributor.  Also,

 ask for the highest temp rating you can get.  The green cables from Vans

 aren't the best.  A set of replacement cables should be $200 or less.



 Do everything to you can to route them away from heat sources, including the

 heater dumps.  I covered mine with fire sleeve in that area.  The inner

 liner softens when it gets too hot, and if that happens in a radius then the

 wire digs into the soft liner, eventually making a groove on the inside.



 Dave Saylor

 AirCrafters LLC

 140 Aviation Way

 Watsonville, CA 95076

 831-722-9141 Shop

 831-750-0284 Cell

 On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:27 AM, jayb <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> 

>

> Anyone know how much new cables cost?

>

> This would be an opportunity for Vans to improve their customer experience

> by either providing specified cables lengths or no cable option w/ their

> throttle quadrant. Of course, I'll bet no one from Vans monitors this list.

>

> I'm getting to the point on this project that I no longer trust ANY plan

> section that says cut, drill or permanently attach w/o consulting the -10

> list for gotchas first. Caveat emptor!

>

> Jay

>

> [quote="partner14"]Especially if you have cold air induction,,,,, just buy

> different length cables... several had to modify the motor mounts.

>  Don

>

>

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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Engine control cables touch mount

Add my name to the list of unhappy campers. My -10 is per plans, push pull controls, XIO-540D4A5 (from Vans). But the engine control cables that came with the FFW kit are too short. Throttle will make it but cannot be clamped to the mount per plans; mixture is way too short to follow plans, just reaches routing directly under the fuel pump. All cables seem to me to be too tight. I guess I'll think about it a while, probably order new longer ones.

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RV-10 QB

Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

As often as this has come up, has anyone pushed Van's to supply

replacements of correct length? Seems like it approaches 100% of

builders, whether push pull or quadrant come up short. Perhaps for

those that have satisfactory lengths, maybe with a sharing of length

values, a consensus could be reached.



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

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 Add my name to the list of unhappy campers. My -10 is per plans, push pull controls, XIO-540D4A5 (from Vans). But the engine control cables that came with the FFW kit are too short. Throttle will make it but cannot be clamped to the mount per plans; mixture is way too short to follow plans, just reaches routing directly under the fuel pump. All cables seem to me to be too tight. I guess I'll think about it a while, probably order new longer ones.



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 RV-10 QB





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partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

What I did was swap them around until maybe you only need to replace the shortest cable.  IIRC, that's what I did.  But yes, Kelley is right, it would be nice if the cable length was a little more accurate... Of course, part of the problem is routing and equipment differences (push pull vs, throttle quadrant, etc.)

 Don McDonald



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  	  Quote: 	
		  

From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Re: Engine control cables touch mount

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 12:39 PM



 --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)>



As often as this has come up, has anyone pushed Van's to supply

replacements of correct length? Seems like it approaches 100% of

builders, whether push pull or quadrant come up short. Perhaps for

those that have satisfactory lengths, maybe with a sharing of length

values, a consensus could be reached.



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu (bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu)> wrote:

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 Add my name to the list of unhappy campers. My -10 is per plans, push pull controls, XIO-540D4A5 (from Vans). But the engine control cables that came with the FFW kit are too short. Throttle will make it but cannot be clamped to the mount per plans; mixture is way too short to follow plans, just reaches routing directly under the fuel pump. All cables seem to me to be too tight. I guess I'll think about it a while, probably order new longer ones.



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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

Bob - I will send you all the information off-line. 

  

 Yes.  and the methodology to determine cable length is up to each builder.  Tim has it (one - mine) on his website.  The supplier of Cablecraft cables through VANS is Instrument Sales and Service of Portland, OR.  they consistently make the cable to the length requested. I have posted contact name, number and how to use Weed Wacker line to make that length determination.  The crowd keeps buying parts designed once over six years ago for a prototype that come in the Finish Kit of current RV-10s.

  

 Each builder was, is and will always remain the Quality Control on parts installed into your creation.  The problem is QC.  When a single point supplier consistantly provides one length and the builder has correctly selected a differing length, it is baffling how often this question gets addressed.  the culture is that if VAN sells it, it must be right.  It is the same arguement used on Green fiberglas, Pink Fiberglas and now grey primed pink fiberglas.  Think of the supplier giving you extra hours of enjoyment to get intimate with a few of those components.

  

 I will print an apology the day VANS begins admitting some parts do not work as well as intended and embraces making improvements to those few isolated parts.  It is not their problem for the choice of parts selection.  They have done a fine job, created a path of enjoyment for many and still leave us enough of the journey to feel we actually have some choices left.  And Kelly, NO they cannot be pushed.  It is a corporate culture thing they want you to embrace.  You are the builder, you are QC.

  



  John Cox



 

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Sent: Wed 6/16/2010 12:39 PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Engine control cables touch mount

  

--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com>



As often as this has come up, has anyone pushed Van's to supply

replacements of correct length? Seems like it approaches 100% of

builders, whether push pull or quadrant come up short. Perhaps for

those that have satisfactory lengths, maybe with a sharing of length

values, a consensus could be reached.



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

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 Add my name to the list of unhappy campers. My -10 is per plans, push pull controls, XIO-540D4A5 (from Vans). But the engine control cables that came with the FFW kit are too short. Throttle will make it but cannot be clamped to the mount per plans; mixture is way too short to follow plans, just reaches routing directly under the fuel pump. All cables seem to me to be too tight. I guess I'll think about it a while, probably order new longer ones.



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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: Engine control cables touch mount

I ordered the throttle quadrant kit, and the cables all fit with no  

issues.  On fact, the mixture and throttle were a bit long!

-Mike Kraus



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On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 As often as this has come up, has anyone pushed Van's to supply

 replacements of correct length? Seems like it approaches 100% of

 builders, whether push pull or quadrant come up short. Perhaps for

 those that have satisfactory lengths, maybe with a sharing of length

 values, a consensus could be reached.



 On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Bob Turner  

 <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

> 

> <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu>

>

> Add my name to the list of unhappy campers. My -10 is per plans,  

> push pull controls, XIO-540D4A5 (from Vans). But the engine control  

> cables that came with the FFW kit are too short. Throttle will make  

> it but cannot be clamped to the mount per plans; mixture is way too  

> short to follow plans, just reaches routing directly under the fuel  

> pump. All cables seem to me to be too tight. I guess I'll think  

> about it a while, probably order new longer ones.

>

> --------

> Bob Turner

> RV-10 QB

>

>

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hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 240

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Engine control cables touch mount

Cable length + corresponding fit would also depend upon location and use of the stock FW holes. Any deviation from the original locations would change the required lengths slightly. I've also heard mentioned that engine sump dimensions vary widely.



The take away here for those yet to come is to measure for your particular setup before ordering the FWF or throttle quadrant.



Thanks everyone that responded to this thread. Don't know what I'd do without access to this community. Probably fall out of the sky!



Jay

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