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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject: door locks

Hi guys,



Once upon a time, some kind soul either sent me directly or pointed me  

in the right direction so I could see both photos and drawings of the  

door lock mechanism.



Alas, I cannot seem to locate them...can anyone help me out?



Fred

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g-iani(at)ntlworld.com
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:59 pm Post subject: door locks

Fred



Is the attached the one you are referring to?



Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours

Europa Club Mods Specialist

e-mail g-iani(at)ntlworld.com 



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frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: door locks

On 06/17/2010 12:03 AM, Fred Klein wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Once upon a time, some kind soul either sent me directly or pointed me

 in the right direction so I could see both photos and drawings of the

 door lock mechanism.


	


Are you referring to the mechanism to lock the doors with a key?

If so, would you rather have the thieves just walk away with your fancy

headset, or do you want them to pry the door open with a screwdriver or

smash a window first? We are talking about thieves, if they want

something, they don't care about damaging your Europa.



I have deliberately no locks on my Europa. If thieves want something, I

rather want them taking it without damaging anything.



Frans

grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: door locks

Certain amount of sense in that Frans, a good strong cover is a good plan though. More difficult to see what you have and makes it a little more awkward for the thief

Graham

From: Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>

To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

Are you referring to the mechanism to lock the doors with a key?

If so, would you rather have the thieves just walk away with your fancy

headset, or do you want them to  pry the door open with a screwdriver or

smash a window first? We are talking about thieves, if they want

something, they don't care about damaging your Europa.

I have deliberately no locks on my Europa. If thieves want something, I

rather want them taking it without damaging anything.

Frans

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rampil

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 870

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:49 am Post subject: Re: door locks

Franz,



I put my lock in because of airshows and non-home airport stays.



At Sun n Fun, there can be 50,000 non-pilots wandering the flightline with little supervision.

Some thefts of opportunity can clearly be prevented.



Of course, locks don't prevent the damage done by kids running amongst the aircraft or by smoking either.

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budyerly(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: door locks

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->                        [img]cid:003b01cb0e37$9e00bdf0(at)goldfishbk2xxe[/img][img]cid:003c01cb0e37$9e0578e0(at)goldfishbk2xxe[/img] Photo E-mail           [url=http://photos.msn.com/Viewing/Album.aspx?PST=8nK2AN1B!1LEiKSdooxx9v4CFFiF2tnPWP2mfc7Vl*s7sCuc1uo!y!v8fOvAU0MuyqVUn!EUNe*JwlZhC1qo6w%24%24]Play        slideshow[/url] | [url=http://photos.msn.com/viewing/Photos.aspx?pi_Type=SlideshowTask&Task=Download&stppData=&pi_ImagesOnly=1&Folder=nBuRgwTGIGjZPMtNhxCyPhYLUBR*bYP2w2HzJl4u0G0%24&User=23IQaj7Z2BRqNO1wUECSpX*P0Ju9hSGI&pi_NoLogin=1]Download        images [/url]    

 Fred,

 Here is how I do it.  As I'm sure you know, it is a deterrent  system.  You can't stop a determined thief, but it deters the less  considerate person from opening up your cockpit uninvited.  You won't  believe what people do at air shows..  I actually prefer a cockpit cover,  but that has drawbacks to.

  

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 Custom Flight Creations

  

  

  

  

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               Outside of  door.

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               Inside  finished.

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               Door lock installed with door handle      open

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               Handle in closed  position

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               Lock in locked position with door      closed.

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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:24 am Post subject: door locks

Ian, you wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Is the attached the one you are referring to?


	


	THAT'S IT...exactly!



Nice design...simple, direct, robust...and I love the idea of  

"keys"...which give me the option of engaging the "lock" if, and only  

if, I choose to do so.



Thank you very much Ian,



Fred

fklein(at)orcasonline.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: door locks

On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Bud Yerly wrote:

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		  Here is how I do it.  As I'm sure you know, it is a deterrent system.  You can't stop a determined thief 	




Thanks Bud...nice solution!

You're no doubt correct about a determined thief...but my concern is more about determined lovers...the way I see it, my Ms. Europa will be sooooo sexy, that she will attract and inspire the passionate who will endeavor to experience "oneness" within her cockpit. 

On the other hand, come August, anyone who doesn't lock their car in my village runs the risk of returning to their vehicle and finding it stuffed with zucchini...August is also when our Orcas Island fly-in is held, so I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Fred

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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: door locks

Bud...nice refinement w/ the "double D" hole and the inside knob (presumably) to ensure that rear door latch is engaged...question: Can the pilot reach both knobs?...I'm going to run out to the shop and make sure I can reach them while sitting in Ms. Europa.



Fred



On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Bud Yerly wrote:

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Fred,

Here is how I do it.  



	




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budyerly(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: door locks

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Fred,

 I can and I am 5-10, so I believe most can.  I always push on the  backs and front of each door before takeoff as a door loss deterrent. 

 Bud

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budyerly(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:21 am Post subject: door locks

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Fred,

 I can and I am 5-10, so I believe most can.  I always push on the  backs and front of each door before takeoff as a door loss deterrent. 

 Bud

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