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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

Listers-

With the recent announcement that the FCC will discourage the sale of the older 121.5MHz ELTs this August, I would be interested in conversing with those of you who have done the switch from the ACK E-01 to the E-04 in a flying aircraft with panel mounted GPS.

Thanks in advance.



N1GV (RV-6A Flying 944TTAE Silicon Valley, CA)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

Unfortunately, the E-04 from ACK is not yet available - ACK is stuck in certification red tape.
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM, <Vanremog(at)aol.com (Vanremog(at)aol.com)> wrote:
[quote] Listers-
 
With the recent announcement that the FCC will discourage the sale of the older 121.5MHz ELTs this August, I would be interested in conversing with those of you who have done the switch from the ACK E-01 to the E-04 in a flying aircraft with panel mounted GPS.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

This is discussed in http://eaa.org/news/2010/2010-06-21_conflicting.asp . My question is, does this mean that it is unlawful to broadcast in 121.5 by the ELT. If so, are all the new 406 elts also now illegal since they all from what I see broadcast on both 406 and 121.5? I could not find any that only use 406.
Bill Greenley

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With the recent announcement that the FCC will discourage the sale of the older 121.5MHz ELTs this August, I would be interested in conversing with those of you who have done the switch from the ACK E-01 to the E-04 in a flying aircraft with panel mounted GPS.



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:12 am    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

"Discourage the sale," - yeah.  From what I read, it's more like "ban the use of."  The FAA is apparently OK with 121.5 ELT's remaining in use, but the FCC plans to cite you if you activate one for any reason.  

Typical big gov.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:37 PM, <Vanremog(at)aol.com (Vanremog(at)aol.com)> wrote:
[quote] Listers-
 
With the recent announcement that the FCC will discourage the sale of the older 121.5MHz ELTs this August, I would be interested in conversing with those of you who have done the switch from the ACK E-01 to the E-04 in a flying aircraft with panel mounted GPS.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
N1GV (RV-6A Flying 944TTAE Silicon Valley, CA)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:45 am    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

Dang. My new ELT for my RV-9A was just delivered last week. Boat anchor, "get a rope".

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:24 am    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

This is what the Aircraft Spruce catalog says about the ACK E-04 ELT:
Undergoing certification testing, ACK is not accepting orders for the E-04 until ELT certification process is complete. ACK 406/121.5 MHz E-04 ELTACK 406/121.5 MHz E-04 ELTACK 406/121.5 MHz E-04 ELT


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:49 am    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

Before taking any action; wait for more accurate news.  The news clip we're seeing says, 'FCC will discourage the sale' not, 'must replace.'   You might be one of the last buyers of the technology, as am I.
 
The issue isn't about saving lifes; it's about rescue workers responding to false alarms..... 
 
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Dang. My new ELT for my RV-9A was just delivered last week. Boat anchor, "get a rope".
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

If you're involved in an emergency and a 121.5 MHz ELT goes off, the FCC
would be hard pressed to fine you. As a ham operator, I can use ANY
radio or other means necessary to protect life, limb or property in an
EMERGENCY and that right should also be with every citizen....

FCC Regulations, Part 97 covers us hams:

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§97.403 Safety of life and protection of property.-
<http://www.arrl.org/part-97-amateur-radio#>

No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station
of any means of radio communication at its disposal to provide
essential communication needs in connection with the immediate
safety of human life and immediate protection of property when
normal communication systems are not available.

Bill Boyd wrote:
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"Discourage the sale," - yeah. From what I read, it's more like "ban
the use of." The FAA is apparently OK with 121.5 ELT's remaining in
use, but the FCC plans to cite you if you activate one for any reason.

Typical big gov.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:37 PM, <Vanremog(at)aol.com
<mailto:Vanremog(at)aol.com>> wrote:

Listers-

With the recent announcement that the FCC will discourage the sale
of the older 121.5MHz ELTs this August, I would be interested in
conversing with those of you who have done the switch from the ACK
E-01 to the E-04 in a flying aircraft with panel mounted GPS.

Thanks in advance.



N1GV (RV-6A Flying 944TTAE Silicon Valley, CA)
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problems and solving problems." --G.E. Moore

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: 406MHz ELTs Reply with quote

I still don't get it (and admittedly haven't done my homework)...how
will going to the 406 MHz ELTs prevent false alarms?

Scott
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Marty Helller wrote:
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Before taking any action; wait for more accurate news. The news clip
we're seeing says, 'FCC will discourage the sale' not, 'must
replace.' You might be one of the last buyers of the technology, as
am I.

The issue isn't about saving lifes; it's about rescue workers
responding to false alarms.....

Marty Heller
RV-7, Wiring



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