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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is
called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box
corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither
is proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:32 am    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

Sean,

I'm not sure I'd use either one.  We get this 3M fire sealant at Home Depot:

http://tinyurl.com/25663eu

It isn't expensive.  One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and misc. gaps.
Dave Saylor
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Watsonville, CA 95076
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Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box corners?  I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither is proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

Thanks Dave... just what I was after at the moment as well.

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On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
[quote]Sean,

I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at Home Depot:

http://tinyurl.com/25663eu

It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and misc. gaps.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
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Watsonville, CA 95076
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:37 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

Plane Innovations LLC sells 2000 degree fire block sealant for that purpose.
www.planeinnovations.com
Paul
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Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither is proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

"Continuous Operating Temperature not to exceed 120°F (48°C)."

How hot do these firewalls get, anyway?
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Sean,

I'm not sure I'd use either one.  We get this 3M fire sealant at Home Depot:

http://tinyurl.com/25663eu

It isn't expensive.  One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and misc. gaps.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

Vans sells, and I believe recommends for the firewall a high temp
ProSeal or equivalent. It is NOT the standard tank sealant that is
being called for.

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"Continuous Operating Temperature not to exceed 120°F (48°C)."

How hot do these firewalls get, anyway?

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dave Saylor
<dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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> Sean,
>
> I'm not sure I'd use either one.  We get this 3M fire sealant at Home
> Depot:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25663eu
>
> It isn't expensive.  One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and
> misc. gaps.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com>
> wrote:
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>> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is
>> called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box
>> corners?  I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither is
>> proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

Normally not bad, but windblown avgas burns at 1875 degrees. Just a precaution in case of engine fire.

Paul
On Jul 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
[quote]"Continuous Operating Temperature not to exceed 120°F (48°C)."

How hot do these firewalls get, anyway?
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Sean,

I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at Home Depot:

http://tinyurl.com/25663eu

It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and misc. gaps.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

CS 1900 Firewall sealant. As Kelly stated, Vans has it.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1279315031-208-606&action=search

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Vans sells, and I believe recommends for the firewall a high temp
ProSeal or equivalent. It is NOT the standard tank sealant that is
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

Bad link. My bad. Here you go -
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1279315031-208-606&browse=misc&product=cs1900

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CS 1900 Firewall sealant. As Kelly stated, Vans has it.
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> Vans sells, and I believe recommends for the firewall a high temp
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

I used the red silicone to fill the corners of the recessed box on the
firewall, and used it to 'glue' thin red silicone sheet to the flapper
on the cabin heat valve so it'd seal really well.
Acceptable??? Only you will be able to answer that!!! Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall Reply with quote

Rob Kochman wrote:
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"Continuous Operating Temperature not to exceed 120°F (48°C)."

How hot do these firewalls get, anyway?
Good question. I'm more interested in fire prevention than fire control.
Linn
[quote] On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Sean,

I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at Home Depot:

http://tinyurl.com/25663eu

It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and misc. gaps.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
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