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You have, single-handedly, changed my opinion of LSM.
Personally, I appreciated you coming out to Dayton, your non-salesman style, and your "engineering openness"
Matt Drahzal
Us "cheapskates" who bought XeVision HID lamps instead of Lopresti Boom Beams are now suffering with constantly breaking lamp cables. Tell your marketing crew, it might be a good time to consider a summer special on Boom Beams. I can demonstrate, based upon personal experience, that spending a bit more on the certified Boom Beam will cost less that the XeVision product.
MATT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS NOTE. I SAID I WOULD COME TO THE GROUP AND ASK YOUR COLLECTIVE OPINION SO, YOU HAVE PROMPTED THE FIRST QUESTION. WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED AND RECEIVED THE STC'S FOR OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY HID LIGHT. WE'RE NOW SUPPLYING IT TO THE JET MARKET. HAWKERS AND CITATIONS ARE OUR FIRST DELIVERIES. IT IS CALLED OUR "X3" SERIES AND IT PRODUCES 65% MORE LIGHT THAN OUR PREVIOUSLY BRIGHTEST BOOMBEAMâ„¢. THAT'S A GIGANTIC INCREASE.
IT'S MY OPINION THAT EVERYONE "WANTS" MORE LIGHT. NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD IT. I HAVE KERATOCONIS, AND I'M AN AGING PILOT, SO THIS HITS HOME WITH ME ESPECIALLY.
PERSONALLY I WANT TO ONLY OFFER THE NEW SYSTEM, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. I'M THINKING OF DROPPING THE STANDARD BOOMBEAMâ„¢ COMPLETLY. HOWEVER IF THERE IS STILL A MARKET AT A LOWER PRICE I MAY CONTINUE TO OFFER IT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN HIT ABOUT THE $600-700 MARK (DOWN FROM $1000). BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MARKET. SO WHAT DOES THE GROUP SAY...DO WE KEEP IT OR KILL IT?
RJ SIEGEL CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:52 am Post subject: New Technology |
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I’ve owned my Tiger for 2 years and this is the third time I’ve had to send my complete XeVision system back to the company to have it fixed. I am rapidly running out of patience and was even considering putting that standard landing light system back into the plane. If the price of the Lopresti Boom Beams, or the new X3 series, would come down from what they were I would be very interested. Count me in.
Tom Quinn
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Subject: New Technology
You have, single-handedly, changed my opinion of LSM.
Personally, I appreciated you coming out to Dayton, your non-salesman style, and your "engineering openness"
Matt Drahzal
Us "cheapskates" who bought XeVision HID lamps instead of Lopresti Boom Beams are now suffering with constantly breaking lamp cables. Tell your marketing crew, it might be a good time to consider a summer special on Boom Beams. I can demonstrate, based upon personal experience, that spending a bit more on the certified Boom Beam will cost less that the XeVision product.
MATT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS NOTE. I SAID I WOULD COME TO THE GROUP AND ASK YOUR COLLECTIVE OPINION SO, YOU HAVE PROMPTED THE FIRST QUESTION. WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED AND RECEIVED THE STC'S FOR OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY HID LIGHT. WE'RE NOW SUPPLYING IT TO THE JET MARKET. HAWKERS AND CITATIONS ARE OUR FIRST DELIVERIES. IT IS CALLED OUR "X3" SERIES AND IT PRODUCES 65% MORE LIGHT THAN OUR PREVIOUSLY BRIGHTEST BOOMBEAMâ„¢. THAT'S A GIGANTIC INCREASE.
IT'S MY OPINION THAT EVERYONE "WANTS" MORE LIGHT. NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD IT. I HAVE KERATOCONIS, AND I'M AN AGING PILOT, SO THIS HITS HOME WITH ME ESPECIALLY.
PERSONALLY I WANT TO ONLY OFFER THE NEW SYSTEM, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. I'M THINKING OF DROPPING THE STANDARD BOOMBEAMâ„¢ COMPLETLY. HOWEVER IF THERE IS STILL A MARKET AT A LOWER PRICE I MAY CONTINUE TO OFFER IT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN HIT ABOUT THE $600-700 MARK (DOWN FROM $1000). BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MARKET. SO WHAT DOES THE GROUP SAY...DO WE KEEP IT OR KILL IT?
RJ SIEGEL CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:56 am Post subject: New Technology |
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Cue the music ..... 'trial balloon' slowly fills the screen ... 
How much is 'significantly more expensive'???
The expenses of keeping a couple in stock should be low and killing the Boom Beam may disappoint some customer down the road .... so I think it's a keeper, although I may not get one.
When Brother Dave was playing with the light at the breakfast was that the new one???
Linn
ArjayS(at)AOL.COM (ArjayS(at)AOL.COM) wrote: [quote]You have, single-handedly, changed my opinion of LSM.
Personally, I appreciated you coming out to Dayton, your non-salesman style, and your "engineering openness"
Matt Drahzal
Us "cheapskates" who bought XeVision HID lamps instead of Lopresti Boom Beams are now suffering with constantly breaking lamp cables. Tell your marketing crew, it might be a good time to consider a summer special on Boom Beams. I can demonstrate, based upon personal experience, that spending a bit more on the certified Boom Beam will cost less that the XeVision product.
MATT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS NOTE. I SAID I WOULD COME TO THE GROUP AND ASK YOUR COLLECTIVE OPINION SO, YOU HAVE PROMPTED THE FIRST QUESTION. WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED AND RECEIVED THE STC'S FOR OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY HID LIGHT. WE'RE NOW SUPPLYING IT TO THE JET MARKET. HAWKERS AND CITATIONS ARE OUR FIRST DELIVERIES. IT IS CALLED OUR "X3" SERIES AND IT PRODUCES 65% MORE LIGHT THAN OUR PREVIOUSLY BRIGHTEST BOOMBEAMâ„¢. THAT'S A GIGANTIC INCREASE.
IT'S MY OPINION THAT EVERYONE "WANTS" MORE LIGHT. NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD IT. I HAVE KERATOCONIS, AND I'M AN AGING PILOT, SO THIS HITS HOME WITH ME ESPECIALLY.
PERSONALLY I WANT TO ONLY OFFER THE NEW SYSTEM, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. I'M THINKING OF DROPPING THE STANDARD BOOMBEAMâ„¢ COMPLETLY. HOWEVER IF THERE IS STILL A MARKET AT A LOWER PRICE I MAY CONTINUE TO OFFER IT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN HIT ABOUT THE $600-700 MARK (DOWN FROM $1000). BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MARKET. SO WHAT DOES THE GROUP SAY...DO WE KEEP IT OR KILL IT?
RJ SIEGELÂ CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:28 am Post subject: New Technology |
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Hi Tom
OK, I'll start counting the votes and see what it gets us...
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I’ve owned my Tiger for 2 years and this is the third time I’ve had to send my complete XeVision system back to the company to have it fixed. I am rapidly running out of patience and was even considering putting that standard landing light system back into the plane. If the price of the Lopresti Boom Beams, or the new X3 series, would come down from what they were I would be very interested. Count me in.
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RJ
My vote would be to keep the boom beams and sell them for the $600 you mentioned. I have had 2 boom beams in the wing tips fir several years whichare wigwagging duty minute of flight. They are an excellent see and avoid tool and are much brighter than the factory lights. I have had no trouble with them and been very happy with their performance
Ned
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On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:31 AM, ArjayS(at)AOL.COM (ArjayS(at)AOL.COM) wrote:
[quote]You have, single-handedly, changed my opinion of LSM.
Personally, I appreciated you coming out to Dayton, your non-salesman style, and your "engineering openness"
Matt Drahzal
Us "cheapskates" who bought XeVision HID lamps instead of Lopresti Boom Beams are now suffering with constantly breaking lamp cables. Tell your marketing crew, it might be a good time to consider a summer special on Boom Beams. I can demonstrate, based upon personal experience, that spending a bit more on the certified Boom Beam will cost less that the XeVision product.
MATT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS NOTE. I SAID I WOULD COME TO THE GROUP AND ASK YOUR COLLECTIVE OPINION SO, YOU HAVE PROMPTED THE FIRST QUESTION. WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED AND RECEIVED THE STC'S FOR OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY HID LIGHT. WE'RE NOW SUPPLYING IT TO THE JET MARKET. HAWKERS AND CITATIONS ARE OUR FIRST DELIVERIES. IT IS CALLED OUR "X3" SERIES AND IT PRODUCES 65% MORE LIGHT THAN OUR PREVIOUSLY BRIGHTEST BOOMBEAMâ„¢. THAT'S A GIGANTIC INCREASE.
IT'S MY OPINION THAT EVERYONE "WANTS" MORE LIGHT. NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD IT. I HAVE KERATOCONIS, AND I'M AN AGING PILOT, SO THIS HITS HOME WITH ME ESPECIALLY.
PERSONALLY I WANT TO ONLY OFFER THE NEW SYSTEM, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. I'M THINKING OF DROPPING THE STANDARD BOOMBEAMâ„¢ COMPLETLY. HOWEVER IF THERE IS STILL A MARKET AT A LOWER PRICE I MAY CONTINUE TO OFFER IT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN HIT ABOUT THE $600-700 MARK (DOWN FROM $1000). BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MARKET. SO WHAT DOES THE GROUP SAY...DO WE KEEP IT OR KILL IT?
RJ SIEGEL CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:41 pm Post subject: New Technology |
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Ned,
        Sounds like an excellent setup. If you don’t mind me asking how much does it cost to install the system into a wing?
Tom Quinn
N249RR
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:28 PM
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: New Technology
RJ
My vote would be to keep the boom beams and sell them for the $600 you mentioned. I have had 2 boom beams in the wing tips fir several years whichare wigwagging duty minute of flight. They are an excellent see and avoid tool and are much brighter than the factory lights. I have had no trouble with them and been very happy with their performance
Ned
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On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:31 AM, ArjayS(at)AOL.COM (ArjayS(at)AOL.COM) wrote:
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You have, single-handedly, changed my opinion of LSM.
Personally, I appreciated you coming out to Dayton, your non-salesman style, and your "engineering openness"
Matt Drahzal
Us "cheapskates" who bought XeVision HID lamps instead of Lopresti Boom Beams are now suffering with constantly breaking lamp cables. Tell your marketing crew, it might be a good time to consider a summer special on Boom Beams. I can demonstrate, based upon personal experience, that spending a bit more on the certified Boom Beam will cost less that the XeVision product.
MATT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS NOTE. I SAID I WOULD COME TO THE GROUP AND ASK YOUR COLLECTIVE OPINION SO, YOU HAVE PROMPTED THE FIRST QUESTION. WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED AND RECEIVED THE STC'S FOR OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY HID LIGHT. WE'RE NOW SUPPLYING IT TO THE JET MARKET. HAWKERS AND CITATIONS ARE OUR FIRST DELIVERIES. IT IS CALLED OUR "X3" SERIES AND IT PRODUCES 65% MORE LIGHT THAN OUR PREVIOUSLY BRIGHTEST BOOMBEAMâ„¢. THAT'S A GIGANTIC INCREASE.
IT'S MY OPINION THAT EVERYONE "WANTS" MORE LIGHT. NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD IT. I HAVE KERATOCONIS, AND I'M AN AGING PILOT, SO THIS HITS HOME WITH ME ESPECIALLY.
PERSONALLY I WANT TO ONLY OFFER THE NEW SYSTEM, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. I'M THINKING OF DROPPING THE STANDARD BOOMBEAMâ„¢ COMPLETLY. HOWEVER IF THERE IS STILL A MARKET AT A LOWER PRICE I MAY CONTINUE TO OFFER IT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN HIT ABOUT THE $600-700 MARK (DOWN FROM $1000). BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MARKET. SO WHAT DOES THE GROUP SAY...DO WE KEEP IT OR KILL IT?
RJ SIEGEL CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: New Technology |
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Well this is an unexpected result..
So far:
8 keep the lights at the lower price
2 in for the new lights..don't care what the cost is
2 don't ever use lights (who ARE these guys?) [quote][b]
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: New Technology |
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They may only fly during the day.
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Well this is an unexpected result..
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: New Technology |
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I have an AG5B. They already have wingtip lights. Check with LoPresti for cost of their HID's. Sounds like they are reducing the price to about half what it once was.....
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Ned,
Sounds like an excellent setup. If you don’t mind me asking how much does it cost to install the system into a wing?
Tom Quinn
N249RR
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te
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Subject: Re: New Technology
RJ
My vote would be to keep the boom beams and sell them for the $600 you mentioned. I have had 2 boom beams in the wing tips fir several years whichare wigwagging duty minute of flight. They are an excellent see and avoid tool and are much brighter than the factory lights. I have had no trouble with them and been very happy with their performance
Ned
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:31 AM, [url=mailto:ArjayS(at)AOL.COM]ArjayS(at)AOL.COM (ArjayS(at)AOL.COM)[/url] wrote:
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You have, single-handedly, changed my opinion of LSM.
Personally, I appreciated you coming out to Dayton, your non-salesman style, and your "engineering openness"
Matt Drahzal
Us "cheapskates" who bought XeVision HID lamps instead of Lopresti Boom Beams are now suffering with constantly breaking lamp cables. Tell your marketing crew, it might be a good time to consider a summer special on Boom Beams. I can demonstrate, based upon personal experience, that spending a bit more on the certified Boom Beam will cost less that the XeVision product.
MATT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS NOTE. I SAID I WOULD COME TO THE GROUP AND ASK YOUR COLLECTIVE OPINION SO, YOU HAVE PROMPTED THE FIRST QUESTION. WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED AND RECEIVED THE STC'S FOR OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY HID LIGHT. WE'RE NOW SUPPLYING IT TO THE JET MARKET. HAWKERS AND CITATIONS ARE OUR FIRST DELIVERIES. IT IS CALLED OUR "X3" SERIES AND IT PRODUCES 65% MORE LIGHT THAN OUR PREVIOUSLY BRIGHTEST BOOMBEAMâ„¢. THAT'S A GIGANTIC INCREASE.
IT'S MY OPINION THAT EVERYONE "WANTS" MORE LIGHT. NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD IT. I HAVE KERATOCONIS, AND I'M AN AGING PILOT, SO THIS HITS HOME WITH ME ESPECIALLY.
PERSONALLY I WANT TO ONLY OFFER THE NEW SYSTEM, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. I'M THINKING OF DROPPING THE STANDARD BOOMBEAMâ„¢ COMPLETLY. HOWEVER IF THERE IS STILL A MARKET AT A LOWER PRICE I MAY CONTINUE TO OFFER IT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN HIT ABOUT THE $600-700 MARK (DOWN FROM $1000). BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MARKET. SO WHAT DOES THE GROUP SAY...DO WE KEEP IT OR KILL IT?
RJ SIEGEL CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering
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I meant to mentioin that there is an STC for installing wingtip lights in teh 70's grummans. Check with Fletchair or Ken Blackman for prices.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:42 pm Post subject: New Technology |
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RJ,
I rarely use the landing light also. I had to change my light in 2008. I installed it in 2004 right after I bought the plane. I only use the light after I turn downwind at night. I think I've spent about $100 on bulbs in the last 20 years.
The biggest problem with the landing light you sell is that it is just TOO DAMN LONG (DEEP?) . On my cowling, there is but 3/8 inches to the Power Flow muffler. Now, if you can get the depth down to 1/2 of what it is and make the price in the $100 neighborhood, I'd do it.
GL
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Well this is an unexpected result..
So far:
8 keep the lights at the lower price
2 in for the new lights..don't care what the cost is
2 don't ever use lights (who ARE these guys?)
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