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ejessee
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 Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:29 am Post subject: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
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Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a matter of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. When I landed, the rubber spacers on my main gear split and came out.
Maybe this post will save someones life. Check those spacers. They are very important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:43 am Post subject: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
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Ernest,
Thanks for sharing your story and giving credit to the Lord. I have always had problems with those rubber spacers breaking down and wearing out and allowing the gear to loosen up to the point it would rock back and forth. I solved the issue with using the sidewall of a truck tire for spacers and have not had any issues since. I am glad that you and your sister are safe.
The links for the pictures are not valid and I was unable to open them up.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ CH701/ 912S/ 186hrs
| Quote: | --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "ejessee" <eejessee(at)us.ibm.com>
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a matter of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't home. Upon takeoff with 2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard a horrific noise. My first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I didn't think I had rotated that severely. Perhaps there was some obstruction that I hit. I had just landed on that strip and it was asphault. Maybe a dog came out on me. I don't know what happened, but I soon discovered that my gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and both of us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time and boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged. This where she stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece of angle, and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of 2 beefy newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts were severely bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and the bolt heads were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn is bent a bit and thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I get a new right strut bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I thought it best to drive back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves settle before I took back to the air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber spacers and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is old -- I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old have caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are very important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.
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Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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ricklach
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:11 am Post subject: Re: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
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I replace the gear mount rubbers every annual with truck side walls like Bob, because I fly out of dirt strips most of the time. I also found that the cheese "L" bracket like yours didn't last very long either. So I replaced it with a piece of 1/2 thick 6060-T6 and that cured the bracket problem. With this maintenance program and the thick bracket I have had no problems for the last three years. I feel very secure now flying out of rough dirts strips.
Rick
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:03 am Post subject: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
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Zenith has a urethane part for the UC cushions which does not rot.
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 8/2/2010 8:43:23 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, NYTerminat(at)aol.com writes:
| Quote: | Ernest,
Thanks for sharing your story and giving credit to the Lord. I have always had problems with those rubber spacers breaking down and wearing out and allowing the gear to loosen up to the point it would rock back and forth. I solved the issue with using the sidewall of a truck tire for spacers and have not had any issues since. I am glad that you and your sister are safe.
The links for the pictures are not valid and I was unable to open them up.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ CH701/ 912S/ 186hrs
| Quote: | --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "ejessee" <eejessee(at)us.ibm.com>
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a matter of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't home. Upon takeoff with 2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard a horrific noise. My first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I didn't think I had rotated that severely. Perhaps there was some obstruction that I hit. I had just landed on that strip and it was asphault. Maybe a dog came out on me. I don't know what happened, but I soon discovered that my gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and both of us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time and boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged. This where she stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece of angle, and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of 2 beefy newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts were severely bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and the bolt heads were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn is bent a bit and thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I get a new right strut bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I thought it best to drive back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves settle before I took back to the air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber spacers and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is old -- I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old have caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are very important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.
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Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
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This is what Caleb at Zenith wrote a few weeks back:
"We supply polyurethane blocks for the rubber spacers now, the part number is 7L2-2A/1. We use those blocks on both top and bottom. We have gotten a lot better life out of the polyurethane than we ever have using rubber. They should be a drop in replacement for the rubber that you have."
They are $6.50 each and you need four.
-- Craig
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Subject: Re: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted
Zenith has a urethane part for the UC cushions which does not rot.
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 8/2/2010 8:43:23 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, NYTerminat(at)aol.com writes:
| Quote: | Ernest,
Thanks for sharing your story and giving credit to the Lord. I have always had problems with those rubber spacers breaking down and wearing out and allowing the gear to loosen up to the point it would rock back and forth. I solved the issue with using the sidewall of a truck tire for spacers and have not had any issues since. I am glad that you and your sister are safe.
The links for the pictures are not valid and I was unable to open them up.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ CH701/ 912S/ 186hrs
| Quote: | --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "ejessee" <eejessee(at)us.ibm.com>
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a matter of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't home. Upon takeoff with 2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard a horrific noise. My first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I didn't think I had rotated that severely. Perhaps there was some obstruction that I hit. I had just landed on that strip and it was asphault. Maybe a dog came out on me. I don't know what happened, but I soon discovered that my gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and both of us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time and boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged. This where she stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece of angle, and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of 2 beefy newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts were severely bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and the bolt heads were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn is bent a bit and thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I get a new right strut bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I thought it best to drive back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves settle before I took back to the air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber spacers and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is old -- I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old have caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are very important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307178#307178
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
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If the link to the attachments doesn't work (like it didn't for me) just follow the link below "Read this topic online here:" and scroll down:
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-- Craig
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Ernest,
Thanks for sharing your story and giving credit to the Lord. I have always had problems with those rubber spacers breaking down and wearing out and allowing the gear to loosen up to the point it would rock back and forth. I solved the issue with using the sidewall of a truck tire for spacers and have not had any issues since. I am glad that you and your sister are safe.
The links for the pictures are not valid and I was unable to open them up.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ CH701/ 912S/ 186hrs
| Quote: | --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "ejessee" <eejessee(at)us.ibm.com>
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a matter of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't home. Upon takeoff with 2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard a horrific noise. My first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I didn't think I had rotated that severely. Perhaps there was some obstruction that I hit. I had just landed on that strip and it was asphault. Maybe a dog came out on me. I don't know what happened, but I soon discovered that my gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and both of us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time and boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged. This where she stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece of angle, and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of 2 beefy newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts were severely bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and the bolt heads were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn is bent a bit and thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I get a new right strut bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I thought it best to drive back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves settle before I took back to the air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber spacers and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is old -- I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old have caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are very important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
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Craig, I get the feeling that there was another picture that he tried to post other than the parts.
Bob Spudis
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
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I think you are right but at least this gives us one.
-- Craig
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Craig, I get the feeling that there was another picture that he tried to post other than the parts.
Bob Spudis
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